Yeah, I’m doing quite a bit of research and they seem like they’re great but not what I’m after. As chaotic as my music is, there are layers and details that just don’t come through on my more fun headphones. For now, I want something that’s clear, good instruemnt separation and detail with modest amount of sub bass, clean mid bass and clean treble. I suppose the term is balance but I keep reading reviews about popular IEM’s and what people are willing to put up with and I’m just like… the excellent sub bass doesn’t matter to me if the instrument separation is muddy. At this point I’m just going to order the Kefine Delci or Truthear Hexa maybe.

Ahh I just logged back on to say that I’m just gonna wing it and spend like 50-80. Should I not just buy Truthear Zero Red?

I was originally going to try the 7hz x Crinacle 2 before reading that the Castor was better for bass. Little did I know, "better bass" just meant way too much bass. It sounds like Crinacle is what I'm after but now I'm wondering if the 7hz is a side-step and I should start with the Truthear x Crinacle Red.

Great response and much appreciated. I've always been an over-ear headphone listener and I'm really excited to start collecting IEM's. I'm dabbling with cheap ones for now and once I know what I like, I'll start buying more substantial IEM's.

As far as the Chu go, I definitely agree with you. I suppose I meant that for 20 bucks, something that I can keep in my pocket for when I need a pair of IEM's while grocery shopping, tinkering in the garage, listening to podcasts, riding my bike, etc. they're great. I tried sitting down with them and running them through my ifi ZEN DAC this morning and I won't be doing that again.

Just curious, what's you opinion of budget planar IEM's? I don't think I'll mess around with KZ again but AliExpress has great sales on KZ right now and I was considering trying them one more time. I believe it's the PRX that I was considering for $15. $63 on Amazon.

I got a pair this week. Love them for their price and I’m definitely keeping. I also got a pair of KZ Castor Pro and I can’t quite explain it but the Castor sound better and somehow I’d rather listen to the Chu

Gotcha. I have Sony Linkbuds but I’m out on wireless. I could rant, and I won’t, but it turns out that all the conspiracy weirdos who tried warning us about WiFi, wireless headphones, 5G, etc. were right. Whoops.

Anyway, I’m ordering a pair right now. I’m psyched. Thanks.

It doesn’t appear that they are, unless you’re referring to 7hz who make both Crinacle Zero and Salnotes Zero

That’s the other one that I was considering. I just wish they used a different type of cable connection. The pins scare me but I’ll definitely buy them anyway.