If they don’t want to text you because you don’t have an iPhone they’re not friends you want to have.

Yes, but it's a feature, not a bug.

It's a super low investment and quick way to identify people you should avoid.

I think this must be a cultural thing because no one in the UK sends SMS messages. Everyone just uses WhatsApp or signal or telegram. I'm android and have literally never had anyone mention the colour of my bubble. I didn't know this was a thing!

I don't understand the apple cult. I've tried their phones. I prefer Android phones.

I have heard of some people who think non apple users are subpar, but those are the ones you want to avoid.

If you live anywhere outside of the US, the question is irrelevant, because everyone uses whatsapp etc.

Within the US, if you are over the age of 30, it probably doesn't matter.

if you are under the age of 30 AND in the US, I mean, if someone does judge you for it, you at least have a great way to filter shitty people out of your life lol.

If you think you're better than me because you have an iPhone and I run an Android, I don't want to talk to you anyway.

People are so fucking petty and elitist over the dumbest fucking things.

If your "friends" make so much fuss over text bubbles, probably the best course of action is to find better friends.

Let me guess, you are from the United States? Every time I heard about this is only from the US, never see anyone outside giving a single fuck about that.
Also, do you really wanna be friend with someone that choose friendship by the phone their friend uses? Wtf

You can have a preference, even a strong one. You can also discuss it with people. But shutting people out because of their phone? That's a major personality red flag anyway.

Its only a dealbreaker if you are dealing with someone who is exceedingly vapid and worthless as a human being, and you should be grateful for it, because it lets you know real quick not to waste another ounce of effort on their dumb asses.

People that buy Apple are some of the most superficial beings on this planet.

Who gives a fuck about text bubbles?

Find friends that aren't so shallow.

This is so American...

"Let me send an SMS, while I ride my horse to go to my bank and do other things that people used to do in 1870."

"Oh, their SMS color is different! I dislike people with a different color than me."

Are you 14? In that case maybe.

iPhone user here, no. I don’t care what other people use and I really find the Android vs iPhone debate both done-to-death and incredibly boring. Most often, from both sides, it’s just people (kids most likely) stroking their own egos in an attempt to argue with someone and feel superior.

I use an android tablet currently for art. I’m very familiar with android and even some degree of programming knowledge. It’s great. My iPhone is just as good in that it does what I need it to do and I understand other people don’t feel the same, which is absolutely fine.

Fuck blue bubbles lmao that’s some cult shit tbh.

Oh also, Memmy is amazing.

I love the blue bubble thing being a .... thing.

It makes identifying people who are a waste of time really easy. Making a big deal out of the colour of a text message bubble? Smell ya later loser, you ain't worth investing any time in.

Move on lads. If someone's shallow enough to care about the brand of phone you use they can go sniff farts for all I care. I ain't following them in their campaign to give the worlds richest company more money. It reminds me of that fundraiser to make one of those reality TV dickheads a billionaire by donating them cash. Like how does transferring some of your small amount of wealth to their giant pool of wealth somehow boost your own... anything?? Probably the second stupidest thing I've ever heard.

I'm an Android user and I have no idea what any of this means.

It's bewildering to me how this continues to be an issue only in the US, the rest of the world figured out this problem around 2010, and I'm not kidding. It's like you guys are still arguing about Beta vs VHS in 2023

Laugh in Europe

I like android better because it has way less limitations than apple. It also seems more flexible as far as apps and customization is concerned.

I never had a IPhone but if they don't Text you because you don't use a IPhone... That sounds crazy.

Apple is deliberately not supporting the global standard of RCS for exactly thai reason. They want green bubbles to stay.

If someone's gonna cut out a person out of their lives because of the choice of their phone, you're better off without that person in your life.

For a long while last year, I had an iPhone and my fiancé had a Pixel. It did not matter whatsoever in regards to the relationship. We used Telegram (still do).

If phone choice dictates someone's choice in partner it is probably safe to categorize them as "terminally online." Stay away from those people.

Are you from the US? In Germany we use WhatsApp Threema or Telegram for messaging, nobody cares about some bubble colour.

I don't even hate Apple that much, but what I hate is that every time I find out somebody I know uses Apple product I say to myself in quiet "Oh gosh...", because very often the reason they use Apple whatever is to feel better than somebody.

And I hate people like these. Not every Apple enjoyer is like that, and there are legitimate reasons to go Apple, like wanting that ecosystem, good camera,, using something that just works or go with Apple Silicon revolution. And no, Apple is not really private.

But in most cases their reasons are either a fucking IM bubbles (because I don't want to spend 5 seconds to install an app that works anywhere) or it just "doesn't lag" (which any phone over $200 doesn't) which is obviously a fucking bullshit to cover the actual answer which is "I wanted to feel better by having shit that every fancy person uses".

But the funniest people are the ones trying to explain these "amazing features" to me, totally ignoring the points that IM sucks on Android because Apple pushes their own standard and refuses to use open ones, that no sideloading and Apple controlling whole app ecosystem is the best thing ever and that Android is slow, because it [put any argument Apple fanboy without the basic OS concepts understanding would make] and not because you used $100 phone and switched to a motherfucking $600 phone. Wow, who would've thought?

My best friend has an iPhone. I'm a Samsung girl. Any time her phone doesn't let her do something I poke fun at the iPhone, but in reality they are just different versions of the same thing. The only real reason I have to complain is the price tag. I'm not paying double for an item that does the same thing as the cheaper version. That's just stupid financially. It's not a better product because it costs more. I can live without whatever it offers that android doesn't.

so the whole world uses mostly whatsapp or some other messaging app. nobody not in the US gives a damn about the color of the bubble or even knows whats the device on the other side. we all use whatsapp its much better in any way possible (except that it belongs to facebook, that is bad... anyway we were there before it belonged to facebook, so.....)

I don't know what you mean by blue or green bubbles (I use Android, Chomp for SMS, Discord to IM, WhatsApp for the stragglers) but I've never met anybody so shallow that they'd give up a friendship over what brand of phone you use. That's the kinda thing a very childish 13 year old might do.

I think you might need to re-evaluate who you think your friends are, if they'd rather cut off contact with you than receive a slightly different looking text message. That's incredibly, INCREDIBLY weird.

Wait, so people decide on a phone based of OS because of blue or green chat message colors? This is the first time I'm hearing this, is this something more of a USA thing or does this apply to other ocuntries as well?

Buying a phone based on chat bubble color seems something that occurs in a toxic society, where you are judged based on phone model. And why do they then change to an other platform to write you?

I never had a discussion about Andriod or IPhone based on this parameter, it was more about UI, services and design of the phone. To be fair we all use third party messengers like Signal or Threema.

It is odd that someone would choose a friendship because of a phone.

Honestly, it's kind of a nice filter to have an Android then, if that's the case.

If they do just move on. It's nice of them to display their red flags like that

Don't care about bubble colours, tbf I can probably change that with Android... user modification like this is one of the reasons I prefer it.

With iPhone, once you have one Apple device, your entire device ecosystem has to be a part of the same walled garden... or they don't play nice with each other. Also, imo while Apple devices are often good quality, they massively overcharge for it (considering the cost to assemble and produce the hardware).

Only the most superficial of people would use this reason as a method for diminishing or isolating someone.

I would question my relationship with them if this is their outlook.

In my experience, no, especially outside of the US.

In many places/countries, there are more android than iphone users. This is especially true in developing countries, but also some developed ones too. It's not uncommon for everyone in these areas to use alternative messaging platform like whatsapp, telegram, or line, so there was barely any difference between android and iphone.

So it's barely a deal-breaker, at least, in this scenario.

Green texts are the worst mostly because (I’m convinced) apple has programmed Messages to intentionally lose them to make group texts with android users a nightmare to deal with, in an attempt at social pressure on android users to get an iPhone.

They are wildly inconsistent in their delivery success. Often times texts will either never go through to some members of the group or go through at random times. Also sent videos are always horribly compressed. Obvious solution would be to use a third party messaging app but but convincing everyone to do that is usually a nonstarter.

What it is though is green texts are just sms messages, which is the original text message protocol that uses cellular infrastructure to deliver the message. Blue texts are sent via the Messages app over the internet so they are likely just more reliable and quick to deliver.

In US it's stupid trench warfare of blue vs green message. As an Android user I have had to explain MULTIPLE TIMES that this is not about Android's lack of capabilities but rather the unwillingness of Apple to use RSC. Almost always my explanation falls on deaf ears.

This is 100% real for young people. It's sad and stupid. At least they can easily figure out who will be a crappy friend.

Only for idiots.

It’s not a dealbreaker for me but I try to push everyone I can to Signal anyway more secure and private than iMessage.

I have the opposite problem... I have family members and friends try to send me pictures and videos from their iPhone's over SMS ALL the time.

They are, like, 40 pixels wide and in the case of video they are literally unwatchable and unidentifiable.

They usually then act put out and irritated with me and the other android users when we need to ask for a link instead. IPhone users can sometimes be such complete idiots... I love these people, but Jesus Christ, guys...

I can make my chat bubbles be whatever color I want. My brother-in-law sometimes gives me lighthearted shit for being the green bubble or whatever in the chat but like, hey man you're the one who put yourself in a walled garden, I don't see it on my end.

I can't stand iOS or any of Apples' faux premium nonsense. Everything is clunky and unintuitive to me and I just want something that works without having to jump through hoops all the time. Android isn't perfect but it's a lot more functional

The OS of people’s phone isn’t relevant at all in my social circles. I don’t even know who’s using what. The whole green bubble stigma is an extremely American thing. Everyone else moved away from the default messages app at least a decade ago. I only get some 2FAs there.

I know for sure that I bought Whatspp in 2010. It was a paid app back them.

This is mainly an issue in the United States and Canada.

Maybe it's a US vs Europe thing but as a European, most messaging (for better or worse, probably worse since it's Meta) is done via whatsapp, where messages appear the same for iPhone and Android users, if somebody messages me through SMS I'd probably think it was a scam or they're really old, no-one I know uses SMS anymore.

It's actually the opposite for me. I don't mind a fancy iphone, but that OS is so locked down I have to run the "same" apps on android to use them effectively for my work.

For me, I'm technologically inclined and like to be helpful. As such, I would not date an iphone user as I do not know how to fix their phones, and that would make me feel sad that I couldn't help. Also, as an iphone user, it seems like they'd rather just buy a new stupidly phone than take the time to figure out how their device actually works, and that massively clashes with how I view things.

What are blue and green bubbles, wtf?

Texting images between android and ios is fundamentally broken. Images are compressed to potato quality and did mot always make it. When i had android i sent images in messenger and texted in sms to ios folks. Its a lot easier now were all on ios.

So I absolutely understand its simpler to just 100% use a different app.

It's only a deal breaker for children and those who have the mental development of a child. It's basically two children on the playground arguing that their personal favorite colour is better just because.

It logically and practically does not matter at all what colour a fucking text bubble is.

Lmao

Wait..when people say the blue bubbles they're talking about text? I thought it was the live wallpaper!

Can apple people not change the color of their text chat bubbles? I changed mine so long ago I don't even know what the default is.

It's not a strict deal breaker for me, I use an Android myself. But I will definitely preach to people the differences between Apple and Android, because in the US there is a vast divide and for some reason they think that it's a status symbol to have an Apple device, and they will boast like it's some great thing. It's super fun to pull up the hardware specs and show them that my phone Beats there new iPhone in almost every category. Then I end it with saying that both systems have ups and down, apples biggest Pro is going to be their interface, but if you are a techie or want actual control over the phone itself stick with Android. Most of the "incompatibilities" between the two systems, are Apple generated, meaning that they've gone out of the way in some way to actively forbid it. Bluetooth is a perfect example of this, Apple devices support it for audio transfer and Airdrop uses Bluetooth for its transfer medium, but you can't transfer files strictly over Bluetooth because the functionality has been intentionally removed to allow the walled garden state.

Just use a service that works on both android and iOS such as Signal.

This is more of a US centric problem, in other countries this hasn't been really a problem as everyone is using WhatsApp/Line/Telegram to communicate. More younger people are actually using discord to text with each other. I think this issue will get less relevant as time goes on.

I have a friend who said he was left out of a lot of group chat with his roommates because he was the green bubble. He switched to iPhone and they still were meeting up without him.

That’s when he realized it was him, not the color of his bubble…

iMessage is only a big deal in the US and maybe Canada. The rest of the world uses WhatsApp and Telegram mostly.

I use several different apps because my friends and family are a good mix of Android and iPhones. I use Blue Bubbles, WhatsApp, Telegram, Discord, Facebook Messenger, Google Messages, Signal, and Meet for "FaceTime" calls.

blue/green bubbles

Whenever I bring those up as an example of a platform (Apple) intentionally leading their users to blame other users for their failings as a brand-bolstering move, I get a swarm of people assuring me it's a myth.

I know it isn't. I see it in the wild, both irl and online, like in this thread.

Is this actually a deal-breaker in friendships out there?

I think this is one of the most ridiculous, cringe-worthy things I have read in a long ass time.

I also have to say that I have no idea how anyone puts up with iphones. I have both and the iphone experience from a UI perspective is just awful. Yeah, the screen is nice, the battery life is good, the camera is excellent, but holy crap is this phone infuriating to use. You can get Android phones with just as nice hardware, but then you don't need to deal with that terrible iOS user interface. How is this such a popular device, I will never understand it.

Also, why the FUCK is the iphone so goddamn heavy?! It is smaller than my Samsung and noticeably heavier in my pocket. Just everything about this device is annoying.

Most of the people that I know who have Iphones do for family chat or teens and college age because everyone in their circle does.

But IPhone owners have no call to be looking down on android users.

Some of the greatest apps, PowerAmp and Photo Studio Pro do not have iPhone versions. Also IPhone runs behind Samsung in innovation. I mean IPhone finally added widgets but the functionality on IPhone pales in comparison to Android.

Also can't change defaults in IPhone for launcher, music, dialer, and pretty much everything except, browser, and email.

I could never own an IPhone because they think they know best for users. With Android I have autonomy over my device.

Some areas of this country do not get reliable cell signal that is where an FM tuner can still receive emergency alerts but no not IPhone because they disallow their customer base from having and essentially force their power users to utilize their cloud services because once again they fail to offer expandable storage as an option. Shaping their own market but it essentially is anti consumer.

Despite these things Apple is relatively successful with these business decisions (especially in the US) but Samsung Ultra has eclipsed the IPhone Pro with the 23 version and IOS is still playing catch up with Android.

i only use android. if someone disciminate you ofr a stupid bubbles color. wth you do with that person???

In my country, nobody uses imessage, just whatsapp.

Most of the world uses WhatsApp, and it does not matter if you have iPhone or Android. Are you in the USA? I hear it is the only country where people use apple messages so much that it matters.

The heck are blue bubbles? Is this post about some fancy soap?

I strive for openness and choice. As much as android is less and less that, it's still a shit tonne moreso than iPhone.

Imagine being so materialistic that you reject friends based on what brand phone they use. I wouldn't piss on someone like that if they were on fire.

Not to mention that any problems caused by green bubble lack of compatibility are Apple's fault, not Android's.

Any person who judges you for your phone is not a friend

For stupid or vain people, maybe. And only in countries where people send SMS anyway.

I haven't used SMS actively ever, because as soon as smartphones got popular, everyone moved to Facebook, and then later I got my friends to move to Telegram if they wanted to keep talking to me.

Signal is my preferred messenger right now since I convinced my contacts to move to it. Collects the least and it is private.

There is also Session which is a Signal fork that removes phone number linking.

Matrix for a privacy focused federated messaging system is another option.

Which country are we talking about?

I barely know people using iOS, much less being elitist about it.

No android is much better

There's a podcast I listen to where the LA comedians routinely use Android as a punchline, while clearly having very little understanding of it. They talk about android users as if they're this bizarre group of social outcasts and libertarians. Tech isn't the topic of the podcast, it's just something I notice any time Android comes up during improv or something. Like this is a well they routinely fall back on. And a lot of guests seem to think something similar.

So I believe there is a weird stigma, but it exists in certain areas more than others. LA is iPhone country, lot of people there see Android as some subpar aberration.

I don’t think I have ever given a shit about the bubble color, and I’m an iPhone user for well over a decade now. I don’t know anyone who actually uses messages for their main communication, they use other apps for that.

i miss the good old times when i was too young to be literate and could not have possibly read this post

I think this is mostly an issue in the US. The rest of the world uses a variety of messaging apps instead of text messaging. Here in South Africa WhatsApp and Telegram are prevalent.

I find it easier to convince Apple users to use another app like Signal to group chat with Android users instead if they really don't want the green bubble.

Alternatively, you can get a secondary iPhone just to use iMessage, but carrying 2 phones does get annoying.

This is mainly an issue in countries that still use SMS as main IM platform.

In most countries (where mobile internet coverage is good) the main IM and VoIP platform is an app like WhatsApp and similars.

(The only thing I hate from WhatsApp is that is from Meta and as any Meta app it abuses background usage. I'd replace it with another app but all my friends, colleagues, even shops use it)

I've had an iPhone for a long time and I've never got a person sending me a SMS. All I get are automatic messages about deliveries and stuff. I guess iMessage is more a thing in the USA?

The green color that Apple chose for SMS was picked because of how harsh it is on the eyes. They want you to hate talking to non Apple users.

Apparently for some people they see it as a gimped version of IOS somehow. If anything IOS from what I've used before is so much more locked down now than it used to be when I had a 3G. But yeah the stigma is there with some people, but it doesn't really matter at this point. If you want to side load apps, use android because you don't have to go out of your way to get dev permissions, hook it up to the PC to install, and constantly re-approve your side-loaded apps. Seriously that shit gets annoying real fast.

I came in here expecting to explain why I'll never have an iPhone lol

I had forgotten about the stupid thing where teenagers care about the color of your text bubble

This is some sort of childish tech-classist B.S. Like you wouldn't talk to a friend because of the shoes they wore or the car they drove. Who cares about people like that?

It's a bummer that anyone is made feel this way about the phones they use. I've been an iOS user since my first smartphone and could not give less of a fuck if you are as well or if you use Android. Most of my friends are Android users and our message threads, video messaging, etc is all fine. I feel like I see this thread a lot on every platform and the comments section is just a place for people to vent about how much they hate the other operating system (and most of the time they have never even used the other lol).

Everyone I know uses WhatsApp, and they're not childish enough for carrying about green or blue bubbles. So weird.

Deal-breaker in friendship? Hell no. If a friendship is defined by what phone you are using, the world is close to ending I think. Deal-breaker for me personally (as in: I need to use Android device): yes. I'm not making the switch to something Google.

Maybe for some teenagers, kids...

Not for adults

I don't care much about iMessage. All the people I know who are not an iPhone users use facebook messenger and cry about how bad quality sending pictures and videos are. But do nothing to change that. Thats the problem. I was going though hell to convince my girlfriend to use Signal to chat with me. Because she is an Android user. I hate FB, Insta, WhatsApp and all that stuff.

My first reaction what like ”yes, of course!”. Then I realized you are talking about others people’s phone, not about choosing your phone :D

The only good reason I can see is privacy since SMS not encrypted. But those people most likely ask to switching to Insta, WhatsApp or other BS platform, so I doubt it’s about privacy. The only logical reasons left - they are addicted to those platforms / they value platform more than you / they just PoS

What are blue bubbles?

I don't care what phone you have, but if you have an iPhone, I will assume you are an idiot by default until proven otherwise.

I honestly get it. Apple has been excruciatingly stubborn to adopt RCS.

But they won't. Because they want users to be pissed off enough to get an iPhone.

That being said, I don't think it's worth hating iOS over. Or vise versa, iOS users just being petty and not texting you because you have an Android. Kinda off topic but the internet loves to shit on Apple.....

Meanwhile I'm over here with a Galaxy S20, iPhone 11 Pro, MacBook Pro, and a mid range Dell laptop running Windows 10.

Also incredibly off topic, but IMO both Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro are superior to anything you can find on Windows. FL Studio comes close though. I hear Abelton Live is good too.

I'm just saying both platforms do the same things very well, and both platforms do some things better than eachother. Troubleshooting on Mac is a breeze whereas on Windows it's god awful. The UI on macOS is so much more consistent than Windows.

Windows has better platform support and doesn't depreciate APIs nearly as much as macOS. (Then again, DirectX 12 dropped support for Windows 7.....WHY).

The file explorer on Windows, while not as pretty, gives you much more control over the Finder in macOS. Windows gives you better user control over Disk Management too IMO. And of course, Windows is better for gaming. That might change over the next 5 years though which I am very happy about.

Also, the Control Panel is fucking awesome and I have no idea why Microsoft continues to try and depreciate it for the trashy Settings app. It has everything you need.

Bit of a rant there.

It may sound weird, but your choice of phone does say something about you. I have to say I am dismayed when I see an iPhone in someone's hand. I may understand their reasons, but still. I can imagine it works the other way around too.

I mean, to take it to the extreme: I remember a Reddit debate about a married couple, where the husband was an open source, anti-corporate advocate, and the wife wanted to fill their house with Amazon Alexa speakers.

20 years ago, your choice of brand for TV or camera wouldn't matter much, but now it can indeed be a big deal.

It’s because of you have a green bubble, none of the iMessage features will work, so it’s better to use another, more feature rich platform to communicate.

I get that some teenagers or whatever make a big deal out of it but that’s all it is really. I have an iPhone and I use discord to talk to my friends who have Android phones. It’s never been a problem.

European here. Telegram and FB Messenger is used by everyone even for iPhone to iPhone communication.

People that use Apple messaging are clearly lost and don't know good software exists.

How old are you?

I've never seen any blue or green bubbles. What messenger are you talking about? Will you really tell me there are actually people out there, using a basic built-in messenger ... for 90's SMS or MMS?

Is this sms protocol? Haven't sent any sms in yeeears

As an iPhone user, whenever I'm in a group chat with one or more Android users, sending images tends to time out and fail to send for whatever reason. Also video sometimes is very tiny. In those cases I'd rather use another app for a smoother experience for everyone.

Yep, especially for young people in the United States.

People have become so attached to "one place only for everything" that something as simple as blue/green bubbles (and associated service differences) will be enough to isolate.

The messiah of maximal convenience makes differentiation harder and harder for everyone.

(And for everyone who says "Everyone here just uses Telegram/Whatsapp/QQ/Line, not a problem over here!", guess what, you're still probably gonna be exclusionary to other services just like the blue/green folks. It just doesn't happen to affect you.)

I worked at a phone store for 4 years and even though many people will say they dont care much for you having an android they will freak out the moment you say you have one. First thing they say is GREEN BUBBLES and then I have to deal with a rant on why they are iphone and what I use instead of so and so app.

iPhone user here. Not a dealbreaker, but I can explain why some people may want to switch platforms. Blue bubble iMessages go out over the Internet--wifi, cell data, whatever. Green bubbles need cell signal and go over the cell network as an SMS, Blue bubbles can go out over cell network (via data), but they also can go out via wifi.

For me this means green bubbles cause a couple issues:

• Many places I go do not have cell coverage. Sometimes its a dead area because of mountains, sometimes its an office building that is too thick. In both cases, iMessage blue bubbles still work. Green bubbles do not.
• When I travel internationally I might not purchase an International plan. But you can bet the hotel I am staying at and most bars/restaurants I can go to have wifi. This means I can still communicate without buying a SIM card or purchasing a data plan. FURTHER, even if I did purchase a SIM card, now we are talking international SMS messages which cost a ton.

Now not a dealbreaker. I just move those conversations to Whatapp, Messenger, Line, KakaoTalk, whatever. It's not a big deal. And definitely not a dealbreaker. If it's a dealbreaker for someone that should be a red flag.

I can still be friends with someone even if they did choose the wrong phone ;) /s

I just like how clean an iPhone feels to use. And the ecosystem. And AirDrop. I really dont care about the bubbles and dont know anyone who does

Clearly people with iPhones around me feel like they are a tad bit more superior. But everyone is just using WhatsApp, even between iPhone users, so it cancels out.

I use Android with Snapdragon processors to be able to unlock bootloader and flash a custom ROM. This allows me to get Google goodies, even those which current Pixels and any other device, be it an Android or an iPhone, lack. For example: Unlimited original quality photo and video uploads to Google Photos. Regarding your bubble situation, as others have already chimed in, non-US peeps just don't care about it.

I'm sure it is.

Just as driving a BMW is a deal-breaker for others. It's a good filter for avoiding people who are that shallow.

I live in south korea, and YES. My friends say its a dealbreaker, although Idk the reasons.

I convert all my friends to switch to Signal. If they like blue, then let's go there. E2EE and easy to use

I switch to signal with my android friends, vanilla SMS is rough, particularly for group messages

If that's a dealbreaker for sb, i would have to think about if it's a dealbreaker for me that they think that way

Fuck em. We all think it's stupid as fuck when you "likes this post"

I could see some features they might want like texts not counting as an SMS or higher quality pics. Using an app fixes those issues so is whatever. Not texting at all is agreeable but don't expect me to reach out...

I'm not sure if it is possible for me to care less what type of phone somebody uses.

If I found out somebody was judging me based on my phone I would seriously consider breaking up with them.

I'm surprised and dismayed we are even having this conversation, and some of the other replies are deeply troubling.

I’ve never seen such a thing in my life, but then again where I’m from even iPhone users barely use iMessage

For teens probably might be a dealbreaker.

For adults, mate webjust want to skip the small talk on slack or whatever app your corporate uses.

99% of people in Europe either use android or older models of iPhone, that's my experience in Italy at least, here a flagship iPhone costs more than a normal/good salary (about 1500 a month after egregious taxing) and the new iphones I unfortunately happen to see the pricetag of all come to about 1800, really can't blame people here for using android or iPhone 6/7.

I live in the US and this was never a problem for me? If it is then these people aren't really your friends. Think of it as a litmus test for finding friends.

The only time it’s an issue for me is when the other person isn’t willing to message me on another app instead of trying to use SMS. I get horrible cell service where I live and my only options are iMessage or an app like Signal /WhatsApp/Messenger.

So this is when adding someone with an Android to a group conversation that was taking place using iMessage can cause some irritation.

The most notable explanation I can point to is that Apple's iMessage, below the hood, functions a lot like WhatsApp or Signal, being an IP Texting/instant messaging service, and offering various advanced features that regular SMS and MMS do not support. To some this is important, and they may think less of Android users as a result of this.

It als does not help that for one, Apple does not want to publish iMessage to the Google Play store, and for two, that there is no general advanced messaging standard in widespread use, that is being enforced as the mandatory standard unless absolutely not available at both ends by phone carriers and/or governments. If there was, the technical side of this would not be a problem.

In Spain absolutely everyone use whatsapp as the standard. Then, in families usually people use meesages, telegram or whatever.

Start. Using. Telegram.

Problem solved...

iPhone user Most of the world uses Whatsapp, so this is a non issue for me

I mean this came up in a recent group chat we had where I asked who the green text user was. It's not that we didn't continue the text. It's that we have to realize that we are using plain text messages and that our iMessage features no longer work. If your friends don't text you because you have an android, they're not your friends.

Real friends know how to mod the droid ;-)

And thanks to all who enlightened me about that blue and green and bubble issue. Hmm. my Telegram indeed is set to a greenish-bubbly theme but that's a coincidence.

My first and so far only iPhone was a 12. Bought it because I really hated the Pixel 4XL and I loved it at the time but I eventually got too pissed off with Apple's restrictive walled garden. I might try again once the EU enforces sideloading but I'm generally happier with Android.

I find Android users are more self-conscious about their green bubble on their friend’s iPhones, than iPhone users who actually GAF.

I have a lot of friends that have iPhones. They just don't care about the color of bubbles.

I am an android user. I really don't care if message is send using RCS or SMS.

It is a pain in group chats. That one green bubble means the chat falls back to basic text. That means I effectively cannot send a video (possible, but unusable quality).

At that point I would rather use something like WhatsApp. Which is fine if everyone in the group has it. At least it is cross platform.

But I am seriously considering buying my sister, who has a cheap husband, an iPhone just so she does not mess up a family group chat.

SMS is just awful, sending someone an image only for them to get a pixelated mess feels bad. Definitely not any kind of dealbreaker though, and I personally don’t know anyone who could care less about the color of chat bubbles. iMessage is just seamless, works across all my devices and never requires even trivial troubleshooting, which makes it a strong preference.

My family uses Whatsapp and my work department uses GroupMe. On group chats, the messages were sometimes getting stuck on sms.

In Europe no one uses SMSs so the blue/green stuff doesn’t exist (they all use WhatsApp for some reason). iPhone are only costly or very costly so yeah they are a bit of a status symbol. Applies to all expensive stuff. Personally I love mine and I love the experience of using Apple products, but I don’t care about what anyone uses

iphones aren't that common in Australia where I am so it's never come up as a problem here. I usually give people shit when I find out they're using one cos imo they're a waste of money lol

It seems like a lot of iot tech is geared more towards iPhone in the US. For example my wife's Odyssey will read the entire header of a text message with text to speech, and if you look into it Honda says it's a known issue. No such issue with iPhones.

Yeah, it's pretty petty, isn't it. Welcome to people.

I like Android because Apple builds cybernetic robots that target humans

I myself use an iPhone, but I don’t at all look down on people who use android.

Hell, I love android and really wish I could use android phones. But I have had several unfortunate occurrences on my two android phones I owned in the past - OS bugs, buggy apps, OS that slows down significantly after one year, dropped texts, dropped calls, dropped voicemails, the list goes on.

Android (in my experience) was incredibly unreliable. Ever since getting an iPhone I haven’t had any of those issues.

Not wanting to talk to you, because your text bubbles are the wrong colour? Sounds a bit cultlike in behaviour. I daresay I don't know anyone like that. But, I also don't know too many people with iphones any more. Also I don't really use text messages. For text I'm using whatsapp or signal (or for techie types maybe matrix).

Not a big texter anyway but I've never run into anyone who even mentions it outside of techy friends.

Just a reminder, Lemmy is VERY biased on topics like this.

I have apple products, including an iPhone. I was a lifelong android user who switched recently due to just wanting a phone that works. I always had issues with getting mobile hotspots to work and other small issues with android. With my iPhone things just work. I agree that the locked in environment is a bit restrictive but I'm willing to accept that for the peace of mind having it all set up brings.

I don't text, so the iMessage blue bubble thing is really not a deal for me. It just worked out right for me to go apple and I haven't really regretted it.

I have an iPhone and I would happily make the change to Android. They’re both great right now. Just be sure to pick a good Android phone. I believe that’s the problem to so much people.

that's so interesting. i had no idea. i have an iphone but i use another text message app and so no one sees my blue bubble... i don't even give out the iphone number anymore.

I use and collect Apple products all the time.

Anyone who makes any kind of stink about some sort of perceived superiority is a fucking moron and you shouldn’t give them the time of day

My fiance favouring apple over android is certainly a character flaw, but ultimately one I'm willing to overlook.

We use FB messenger to communicate, anyway, so I don't think phone OS has much impact.

Not for the ones you should date

I live in a country where the dollar value of iPhone makes them more of a luxury item, sought by people of means or by hipsters.

Most people here tend to communicate via WhatsApp. People with iPhones probably discriminate others for many other reasons before even reaching the bubble color for messages, so they self-select out of the lives of most people.

I’ve found in my experience that texting android folks from my iPhone usually ends up with some sort of text delivery issue. Which can be both iPhone and androids fault by not playing nice with one another, most likely Apple being elitist fuckers BECAUSE of the blue/green bubble superiority war

I've never met someone like this but have heard its a thing for some.

Doesn't really matter to me what device my friends use. But as someone who likes to try apps and different configurations, as well as FOSS, using an Apple device is a deal-breaker for me.

I’d imagine not

If you are in a friend group that does group messages then maybe. It can get pretty annoying

I use the apps bluebubbles and airmessage on android to send imessages via a mac mini I have.

Deal breaker, not at all. Though, back when I had an iPhone I knew immediately I'd have to have another "Which of the five messaging apps will I need to preen through" conversations, since iPhone users in the US fall back on iMessage mostly.

Now, on the flip-side, what was extremely annoying about using the fruit device was assumptions others made about me in techie circles. Some of which appeared within these responses. That I was tech illiterate, vain, or a fan-boy of some sort. It simply did what I needed while carrying wonderful resale value and support times.

Excuse me. i don't know what i'm saying but i havent had any green or blue bubbles yet in my life. i guess you're referring to apple's messenger? i don't like that term, but i think people who just believe in iphones (without thinking any further) are sheep. you get nice cloud services, a clean ecosystem and colored bubbles, but little to none control over your device, privacy and a skewed perspective on other people. Idk. Just don't let your phone define you and your friends. I won't. And i won't accept friends who define friendship by the operating system on somebodys phone.

I believe it’s because green text messages used to function worse. It used to be that images and videos were lower quality and you couldnt react to txts.

Now green texts are more up to par with data driven messaging apps. I don’t know if people realize that yet or not. Also, unfortunately, of course there were people that it was a status issue. I don’t understand that.

It’s not so much as a deal breaker. The green bubbles means you’re using regular text, hence in some countries, there may be big charges as opposed to blue which is kind of like your regular instant messaging where it’s free as long as you have wifi or data.

In this day and age, the elephant in the room is sadly, the blue bubble.

SMS sucks. That's the real issue. The fact that an Android user being present in a group chat drags the chat's feature set back down to SMS level is what people are reacting to. (Fortunately, iOS 17 will fix this, at least for the iOS users in the group chat).

Having it be a friendship deal-breaker is childish, though.

For me it is. If the girl is using an Apple phone, it just lets me know she cares not for her privacy at all

I can see why people would be annoyed. Y family is heavily invested in the Apple/iCloud side of things. And having all our phones work together in the same environment is so much less of a headache vs. a mix of apple, android.

I understand it can give some girls the ick. Try not to let them see your phone.

Dude… let it go. Seriously. You’re clearly trying to drum up some drama. It doesn’t matter what people use. It doesn’t effect you at all. They will use what they want, and you will use what you want.

And I’ve read that post. You’re fishing from conflict there as well, but most of the responses were well thought out reasons for using the product- you just didn’t like/agree with them. So now you’re here trying again.

If you have such a hate-boner for apple, don’t use apple.

Deal with it.

I have an iPhone... For me if I see the green bubbles that means that the messages are SMS which is insecure and antiquated. I use iMessage and Signal because they are more secure and allow for sending rich media like photos and videos without worrying about MMS and SMS. I have massive amounts of data, why the heck would I use SMS to send messages? It has nothing to do with hating Android, it's more to do with SMS being hot garbage.

To clarify, if you only have SMS, that's fine I don't care and it doesn't affect our relationship, but given the choice I will always default to an end to end encrypted messengers.

I have friends who, against better counsel, have android phones, and the group texts were forever breaking. I finally brokered a deal for us to use Signal, which has been great. So (1) Android users in a group text on iPhone is a super pain in the ass, and (2) If everyone's using Signal, it's cool.

Absolutely definitely yes.

In high school and continuing into university, everyone would play the iMessage/Snapchat games that only work with iOS. The few Android users, including me, were 2nd class citizens.

Using Android has absolutely cost me several potential friendships and looking back I genuinely should've spent the money and bought the inferior iPhone.