What were you surprised to learn wasn't actually normal?
1y 2mon ago by lemmy.world/u/VirusMaster3073 in asklemmyThat not everyone secretly wanted to be a woman.
Well, not the women, obviously, because they're already women.
Lucky bastards.
Oof yup that was a doozy
I'm still not entirely convinced tbh. I mean women are cute and just great and men are...
Men can be great too, and being a man has lots of perks (beyond even those imposed by patriarchy). Look for allies and you will find them in all gender flavours.
oh for sure. Wasn't being serious, dysphoria is there and makes me basically think of existing as a man as hell and finding out that's not everyone was interesting to say the least.
Homophobia
I was raised in a right wing, rural area, and i didn't meet a gay person til higschool. When he said he was gay, i assumed he was joking.
Im trans now lol
Dude tells you he's gay, immediately turns you trans. The danger is real, people! 😭
if my grandma were to be believed my dad's babysitter when he was 4 years old infected him with homosexuality then he passed it onto his children because one (me) is trans and the other is bisexual
She's not very harmful about it but is just really damn confused lol
So if I get this right, your dad turned homosexual from his babysitter... Then proceeded to have two, presumably biologic, kids?
Nah the dad was too strong to be brainwashed by the babysitter's sexual deviance. But those poor baby sperm overhead everything and became infected with the gay.
presumably biologic kids
Yeah, my dad fell for the "get a woman to protect you from same sex attraction" propaganda. Over the years he changed his mind and learned that it's not something to be ashamed of, but he was in a relationship with kids now.
when I came out and my mom was very verbally abusive he kinda had the realization that the relationship wasn't benefiting the children either. Also my mom was very very controlling over who he could talk to/make friends with.
He is currently in the process of a divorce after 22 years and is coming to terms with how he let fear control his life for that long.
It's kinda sad.
These must be the so called trans reading bed time stories turning kids gay i keep hearing so much about. /s
Small towns are terrible for this. And racism
There's a reason cities are more liberal. Turns out being surrounded by different cultures, races, sexualities, and beliefs shows you that maybe they're not so different. In a town of 15k middle American white folks, it's hard to see another culture equally, let alone at all.
Same thing with college. There's no such thing as a liberal or democratic college. It's just that people are simply surrounded by other people. You learn all of those weird rules and things you were taught don't actually hold up, and that everyone is kind of the same
Grew up semi-rural south and same thing but my parents took me to see The Birdhouse for some reason (I was 14) and I was like "OH!"
Not gay myself, but thankfully I did not grow up to be the bigoted person my parents wanted me to be.
it was semi-common in the early 2000s in cities, but not anymore after 2010.
I remember one day realizing it was odd that my dad would hug my mom but my mom would never hug him back. She would just stand there and let him hug her. Yeah he was an abusive husband and I was very happy for her when she finally left him after over a decade!
Knee pain. Everyone told me it was normal growing pains, until one little league coach notice I run weird. Queue years of doctors and specialists and tests and scans and surgeries, and now I'm a 40 something guy with advanced arthritis that could have been much much worse if left untreated.
way to go attentive little league coach!
also wtf parents?
"Well it's not hurting me so it can't be that bad."
My parents took me to see doctors, who told them it was just growing pains and suggested I exercise more to lose weight. I saw three specialists and had a bunch of xrays before anyone noticed the shady spots on my cartilage. Osteochondritis Dissecans occurs in 15-30 people out of 100,000, and most of the primary care doctors I've had in my life had never heard of it.
I can't blame my parents for that. I can blame them for a lot of things, but they did their best.
Getting locked in the basement without water, or thrown out into the streets for half a day, when you misbehaved as a child.
If I may ask, where are you from?
Germany
I mean, yeah? Is that really so bad. I guess it depends what the intent was. The town I grew up in was pretty tame, and the room I'd get locked in without food or water if I'd misbehaved had books
Today you are learning it's not normal to lock children away with no food or water.
I was locked outside of the house for long periods of time and had to drink from the garden hose / garden faucet, and pee in the bushes. We also had like 10+ apple trees. It wasn't that bad. A bit boring sometimes.
But that's because it was outside and I could get my needs covered and meet friends.
Locked inside without these needs covered for extended periods is a lot worse in my opinion. Even cats and dogs have those needs covered.
It's also about the lack of freedom when locked inside.
I would not treat my own children like I was treated, and especially not like you were.
Yeah, I just remember it being boring too. I'm also not really a person who can't go a few hours without water, so I never felt I was being neglected.
I dont think I'd lock my kid indoors, but I do admit that when it happened to me after I'd been fighting my siblings or something, it was just treated as a time where I would chill out and read a book to wind down. Once dinner was ready, I'd get called for dinner, and everything seemed normal.
So I'd probably try to create a cool down zone with my kids if I ever have them, maybe a comfy chair they're not allowed to leave for a few hours?
Children (humans) should always have access to clean water. That is not normal in the slightest. A time out shouldn't include torture.
I agree that "people should have access to clean water". Let's not confuse sending a child to their room to wind down when they're throwing a fit with torture.
No one takes harm from lack of water in a mild climate over the course of a couple hours. The reason it's bad to lock a kid in the basement (or any other room) is that you're taking away their freedom (which may be, to some point, justified and correct) and potentially making it harder for them to trust you. However, kids also need to learn that there are limits to how you can behave, and consequences for breaking those limits. Where the limit between "reasonable consequences for teaching children" and "trust-breaking punishment" lies is a fair discussion to have. No need to pull "locking a kid in their room is torture" into it.
I don't think it counts as locking them away without food or water if they don't become thirsty or hungry while grounded. Grounding my son for an hour, technically he has no water or food, but if he asked for it I'd give it to him.
Exactly "locking away without food or water" makes it sound like the time perspective we're talking about is long enough that access to food and water are necessary within that time span.
I would say you should never lock away a kid for so long that they need access to food and water at all.
No, that's mostly fair, and it wasn't my point to state that sending a kid to their room equals torture. But I hope you can understand that witholding water is not a good thing, ever. Kids might not express (or fleven feel) the thirst. And that can definitely be a bad thing. Take into account possible emotions that involve crying or just warm weather etc. and they could easily get dehydrated. Losing just a few % of bodyweight water can be negatively impacting already.
We seem to agree here: I'm by no means advocating that you should ever explicitly withhold water from a thirsty kid. I just think a lot of people here have gone over-the-top regarding how horrible it is to send a kid to their room without putting a bottle of water in there first. It's not like feeling thirsty for a bit or getting slightly dehydrated is in any way detrimental to anyone's health. People get thirsty and lightly dehydrated all the time, either on hiking trips or because they forgot to bring water for something that lasts a while.
The important thing, as I see it, is that you never put the kid in a situation where they honestly begin to doubt whether you care about their well-being and are going to look after them.
I think your last alinea puts it very well.
I think how rough the punishment is really depends on how long you strand the child for
half a day seems like peanuts though -- though I guess it really does depend how the kid feels about it
Dude no! Like a 15 minute time out is ok. But if they ask for water they should be given it. Locked away alone in a room without supervision for hours? No. That is not normal. At all.
Like a 15 minute time out is ok.
Locked in a room or locked out of the house? That is not okay, regardless of how long it is.
I think they meant standing in the corner or sitting in a chair for the duration of the timeout
Tbh I think even such a thing is not that great for children. Certainly not traumatic or close to it, but just not very effective I would guess.
Standing in the corner doing nothing probably won't work well, but sitting in a chair with a book and an expectation to talk about it after might. Giving them stim toys like fidget spinners could also work. The idea is you want them to calm down.
Please dont ever have children. This is sick.
The only acceptable intent would be something like saving your child from a murderer assaulting your family and there not being enough time for supplies.
Average lemmy.ml user be like:
I mean, yeah? Is that really so bad. I guess it depends what the intent was. The town I grew up in was pretty tame, and the room I'd get locked in without food or water if I'd misbehaved had books
I don't know if this counts, but when I was little I'd go to friends houses, then later in high school to my first serious girlfriends house, and I remember their families were like... loving? I loved spending time at my girlfriends house especially, hanging out with her Mom and her Dad even if my gf wasn't there. They were so nice, and you could tell had genuine affection for their children (and to some degree, me). I miss you Mr. and Mrs. Miller!
That's me. I had no idea other families were affectionate and said crazy stuff like, "I love you." My god, they even hug.
To this day I struggle with affection, even though I love it. If you touch me unexpectedly I'll involuntarily flinch. I don't mind, at all, but I still jerk and can't help it.
I think my family was the same but I turned out cuddly, maybe the difference was the cats?
Heh that was my experience too. But I grew up with a single parent who spent all his time working, so most people's childhoods weren't spent climbing 5 floors of scaffolding for fun
Met my partner and was astounded by her loving family
Being unable to think of something without a prompt.
I guess most people can just remember things without sticky notes and calendars.
What are you, an LLM?
I might be. Give me a topic and I'll spew out all sorts of obscure trivia, but until you mention it, I don't know that any of it exists.
Is that a challenge? Tell me what you know about Living Card Games without looking it up!
So, "Living" card games doesn't mean anything to me, but you did trigger card games in general, which could take me a while. I've probably spent a majority of my waking life playing Magic, Poker, Hearthstone, Silver, Smash up, and various other card games. Most recently, I'm obsessed with Balatro.
That being said...
Are you about to open a Pandoras box by making me look up Living Card Games?
Mate, if you're into CCGs, you really missed out by not getting into LCGs! Android:Netrunner, a remake of the original Netrunner from the 90s is the absolute GOAT CG out there with a close second being the Doomtown:Reloaded (which I helped design). Basically it was CGs without the luck/gambling. Just get all the cards and make exactly all the decks you want.
Unfortunately Netrunner and Doomtown run out of steam half a decade ago, but they're still developed by their fans, but usually the only way to play them consistently is online in places such as Jinteki.net. There's a few others still in production, but iirc they're co-operative ones, like Arkham Horror
Lol I played Wizard 101 with my kids. I had the most amazing solo life/balance deck.
I was maining the most jank exile /chess deck you've ever seen. I called it homeless kasparov
I really like netrunner but I can't find anyone to play with (I prefer in person opponents). It is also the first thing that comes to mind when I think of living card games.
Linux
In high school, my friend ran Linux. I was over at his house and he had to go take a shit or something, and I was trying to see what games he had on his computer. When he got back he asked what the hell I did because he now has to reboot, and we're going to have to watch it do that for the next half hour. And penguins and hats.
That's pretty much everything I ever needed to know about Linux.
I call myself mlm: mediocre language model
Hopefully not engaging in Multi Level Marketing
I teach you some words, and then you teach some words to your friends, and they teach some words to their friends...
AI trained on AI trained on AI trained on AI... Etc etc., quality degrading all the way down.
Genuinely. This is sadly how my memory works. It's gotten better since I had a partner who I would talk to everyday with the inane question, "so how was your day?"
Then suddenly I had to learn how to summarize recent aspects of my life.
And then you're like, "shit, that happened to me today? shouldn't I be angry about that?"
i have approximate knowledge of many things; accessing it without the right trigger may take a while though.
i know i know something but i have accepted that my brain will often only grant me access days later in a completely unrelated situation 🤷🏼♂️
You ADHD? I was almost 40 before I learned about inattentive type ADHD. As far as I knew, ADHD was spastic kids that couldn't sit still. Since I was more of the daydream and fall asleep type, I never would have thought I was part of that crowd.
Pretty sure, yes.
I'm over 40 and i've had this and many other symptoms my entire life.
No official diagnose though; but this 160 questions-test for example says i'm pretty high up there: https://www.adxs.org/en
I'm also the daydream and fall asleep type ☺️
Undiagnosed adults club!
You can actually train for this!
You can train yourself to become more attuned to your interoception. This will make it easier to identify internal prompts like anxiety or hunger. In fact, a friend of mine was studying to become a psychotherapist and last year had me serve as a guinea pig for interoception interventions. In summary, if you find mindfulness practices that involve your body and your own thoughts, you'll be more attuned to your interoception. Things like active meditations can help a lot. You can check out evidence-based and peer-reviewed programs like Healthy Minds.
You can train yourself not just to notice your interoception, but also to use interoception to build habits. I suspect this is what the people who do not use external prompts (like stickies) do: they have habits that kick in with not-so-evident prompts. They could be using something called an 'action prompt' or an 'internal prompt'. I'm using the language of Tiny Habits because it's helpful in this context.
Tiny Habits can teach you how to create habits of all kinds, whether you use external, action, or internal prompts. Tiny Habits prefers prompts that are actions (e.g. "After I put the toothbrush down then I will pick up the dental floss"). But internal prompts are perfectly viable (e.g. "When I feel the heat on my skin and the tension in my jaw, I will describe my inner emotions to myself as if I was listening to a good friend").
You can understand cues and habits more in depth with contextual behavior analysis. CBA or a qualified professional can help us notice when we struggle to pay attention because of conditions like ADHD or anxiety. Something else that CBA can reveal is that, sometimes, we struggle to pay attention because we haven't developed the mental information highways that can make our thoughts flow freely. Things like relational frame training can help us build those highways faster. Another option is to learn to think visibly (Harvard's Project Zero) about our everyday life, so that we build dense information highways that we can later use in daily life.
Of course, the fact is that plenty of humans use external prompts deliberately to help them coordinate and remember things. There's a reason Scrum boards and Kanban are so popular. There's a reason calendar apps and Getting Things Done are so popular. There's a reason many societies have daily, weekly, or yearly rituals. You're among friends :)
This is me to a large degree. Give me a cue and a whole encyclopedia is at your fingertips. Just say think of something and I'm at a loss.
We are normal, it's the others who are weird
Singing to me the song of my people. Where you all at?!
Omg, this is me. I thought I was alone. I love all you people in this thread, FAM!
Same
Excruciating period pain that would leave me fainting and vomiting every. Single. Time.
"Every girl goes through this" said the doctor, convincing my parents that I was just "dramatic".
Turns out I had huge polyps growing out of control! Left scarring in my uterus and high-risk when pregnant.
Dealt with that hell every fucking month since I was 11 until I got onto birth control in my 20s.
Poor you! It must have been terribly frustrating that the doctor wouldn't take you seriously. Seems to be a frequent thing women go through in the medical world. Hope you're okay now.
Thank you.
Birth control was my savior and actively allowed me enjoy life again. 💕
Amazing! I wish it worked for my GF but that gave her (we found out very late), terrible side effects.
My wife went through something similar. Took until she was in her 30s and we were pursuing IVF for someone to take her seriously and actually do the investigation to realize she had crazy scarring from endometriosis causing all kinds of issues.
It's insane to me how much the modern medical community seems to normalize or straight up ignore this shit, like you said.
I realize we could have pushed harder, but when multiple doctors tell you "yeah, some women just experience periods differently, here's 500mg Naproxen to help you through" you tend to believe it.
I'm so sorry. I hope that the two of you are doing well.
It's an actual tragedy how women's health is dealt with. They get brushed off because "women have been giving birth for hundreds of thousands of years!", ignoring that it's the number one thing that kills women!! So our reproductive health and concerns are ignored while the ability to reproduce is put onto a pedestal.
I fucking hate it.
My pop history theory is that it's a latent cultural memory of the Biblical tradition. Remember how Eve was cursed with the pain of childbirth after giving Adam the fruit? Western culture has a history of seeing women's pain as a result of this ancient curse. Now, I imagine few doctors today are explicitly thinking about the Garden of Eden when diagnosing patients, but the cultural memory remains, if greatly diluted and distorted.
alot of doctors are jaded asf, even to the point of laughing you out of thier office. i think women are often ignored for symptoms of pain.
Sucks when doctors just assume things, it can cost lives.
It's barbaric. They assume that if you're girl/woman, most problems are basically "female hysteria"!
Not even "it could be [blank], you might want to keep an eye on that and report back if it doesn't go away." Nope! Diagnosis: dramatic.
And women die from this shit. Or become disabled / handicapped. Or it affects their long-term future if they want children. It's awful.
Some people did a thing with a specially configured tens machine where the woman would turn it the levels up and up until it was at the level of their normal period pain and then the man would go through the same levels stages and be gasping and writhing before it got there.
Turns out men have been massively underestimating period pain for centuries.
That said, some women experienced far, far higher levels than normal and were encouraged to take that data to a non-dismissive healthcare professional.
As a dude, I want to believe that it's less than it is because that's just wholly unreasonable that women have to put up with that.
They're were a lot of men who insisted on immediate medical attention who got told that their partners had tried that and absolutely nothing would come of it.
Hey, I know this is random, but was the pain, like, in the lower abdomen and like... Not really a muscle cramp, but deeper?And did physical activty make it better or worse? Asking for a friend. 👀
Pain was deep, ye. Can't answer the question about physical activity because it rendered me unable to do any! But, yes, exerting any kind of physical effort seemed to make it worse.
I would lie on the cold bathroom floor every month with a heating pad / hot water bottle on my stomach, but it gave little relief through the simultaneous hot flashes and cold sweats.
Two things that actually helped somewhat if I could catch it hours before it started were: eating bananas (I suspect potassium helped with cramping), and, weirdly.. drinking pickle juice. Idk what that was about, but it worked.
But have "your friend" get checked for endometriosis and PCOS!!! That shit can actually escape your uterus and scar up / destroy your other organs!!! No joke!!!!
She might just do that because your experience sounds very similar to her "stories." She also can't move when it happens and is left pretty hobbled until it passes, but moving makes it worse... So I've heard. 👀
Social democracy
In general the political system you grow up in seems to becomes a normalcy in your mind when in reality there's so many different ways of governing
Most fish probably never even realize that water exists till they are yanked out of it by the fisher's net
Good analogy haha
Not everyone has tics they must surpress while in public.
Why is there no helpful suggestion under this comment? I have multiple tics too and I want someone to tell me "just sprinkle some cinnamon on your ass and they will go away!"
Have you tried sprinkling cinnamon on your ass?
It hurt to learn this
Apparently, it isn't normal to just space out during a test. Yeah, I went through K-12, undergrad, and grad school with an undiagnosed learning disability. This was only one of the symptoms...
wait, it isn't normal?
I’ve never been diagnosed with a learning disability and I would often space out sometimes during a test. The brain gets tired and needs a break/reset before going back to the task. Now, if it was constant or for long periods of time, maybe that’s different? I’m not a doctor and this person didn’t specify.
This was a really recent realization for me. I am one of the people who can voluntarily activate the tensor tympani muscles in my ears to create a low level rumbling sound. I recently tried explaining this to someone else and they still think I am making it up.
I grew up thinking it was normal for grown men to be attracted to little girls. My mother had a habit of pointing out random men who just happened to be around and telling me they were staring at me/thinking about how beautiful I was/in love with my/trying to look up my skirt. The way she talked about it made it seem like it was a common, acceptable thing.
What, and I cannot emphasize this enough, the fuck
I think she had undiagnosed mental issues, tbh.
I hope things are better for you now x
Yeah, I realized as an adult that most grown men actually aren't interested in kids.
As a man, I was worried about that growing up, but the women I'm attracted to has aged with me. I'm friends with some women under 30 from the dog park, and I can appreciate they're pretty but they also look like kids. I hope they meet nice guys around their age.
So it wasn’t just my mom.
I really wonder where they got this from! Strangely enough, when I was a teen and actually starting to get inappropriate attention from men, she would never believe that it happened.
holy crap I hope you got out of that situation quick, this should NOT be normalized
My heart breaks for you in this
I distanced myself from her after college. Her behavior was unacceptable in a lot of ways, and she wasn't willing to change. Thanks for the kind words.
My mother
…WAT…
What in the fuck 🤮
It was not your fault. <3
Thanks.
Reading.
Or rather, how so many people seem fear and avoid it, or can't do it. Something like 21% of adults in the US are illiterate, and the majority -- 54% -- read at or below a 6th grade level.
I've been a sight reader probably since I was about six years old. I absolutely cannot look at any words legibly written in my native language and not understand them. You couldn't force me to look at words written in English and not digest them if you held a gun to my head. I fear no wall of text, no matter how tall it is.
It takes some effort to wrap your head around the notion that not only can most people not do this, but statistically speaking most or at least a plurality of people have to struggle or exert conscious effort to read and many of them are loathe to do so. And roughly one in five people simply can't. This did not sink in for me when I was younger.
I can't imagine having to live my life that way. You nerds have seen how much bullshit I write in a day; I'd go absolutely bats.
Reading.
When I got to high school I started taking book out from the library there. Over three years I took out about a dozen books that had never been read; they'd just been sitting on the shelves for years.
When I was a kid I noticed most books hadn't been checked out by more than 2 or 3 people. At one branch they'd just stamp the back inner cover of the paperback, no checkout slip and I asked "What happens when you run out of space to stamp?" and she just laughed sadly
Two things.
"How Can I Help You" by Laura Sims. Serial killer disguised as a small town librarian. Anyone how likes libraries will recognize and enjoy.
https://bookshop.org/p/books/how-can-i-help-you-laura-sims/19108763?ean=9780593543719&next=t
The other thing is that when you're a reader you get a skewed view of the world. You hang out with other readers and talk about books, and grow up thinking that everyone knows who Sylvia Plath was.
Mine are all pretty mild.
Everyone reading all the time at home. Pretty much every room had bookcases, full to bursting with books. When I was old enough to have friends around they all said how weird it was to have so many books.
My parents were really emotionally distant. I don't recall either of them telling them they loved me - or each other for that matter. No hugs or kisses. More than one of my girlfriends called me an emotional cripple.
Home-cooked food every night. We never ate out, never had takeaway. My mum was a great cook though so although my friends seemed to think it was weird I'd never had a MacDonalds when I finally did try it I didn't understand the hype.
Oh, and the poop knife, of course.
Long, skinny stools. Turns out it was because of a precancerous blockage.
They're called bar stools smh
/jk
I...uh, should probably schedule a doctor's visit.
*and
Hope you're doing ok now!
Growing up using a poop knife.
Ah, a person of class!
Did you actually? Or are you carrying that over from reddit? 'Cause I actually have a similar one to that 😅
Never did I think someone would call my bluff.
Do tell
It's a reference to an old reddit post.
I misread your post. I thought you had a story similar to having a family poop knife
its a TIFU post on reddit.
Dammit I thought for sure this wouldn't be in the comments
Wait til you hear about my broken arms growing up
Stop. Get some help.
gun assault survival training for kids
yeah, no, this is just locally normal
On this same note, as an European it was insane for me to learn that school shootings like Sandy Hook, those are just the ones that go famous for some reason.
But in reality hundreds more happen throughout the year that don't go "viral" so they don't get reported at all.
Truly mind-boggling.
Not true. If a single child is shot, or even shot at, it's national headline news. Caveat: That doesn't apply to inner-city children shooting each other. We, uh, don't talk about that.
If you look at some stats a "school shooting" is any time a gun goes off on school property. I could go down to the elementary school and pop one off at midnight. School shooting.
"Mass shootings" go this way as well. We all have an event in mind when that term comes up. There's quite a gap when you look at lies, damned lies and statistics. :) You might note that Mother Jones and The Violence Project are anything by conservative sources.
Four victims is what it takes for a shooting to be considered a "mass shooting".
This is a ridiculous number, because it seems too low & too high at the same time.
We had to do active shooter training when I started my job at an US companyin Europe. That was weird.
That wasn't even a thing when I was in school, but I imagine columbine and after changed that.
I went to high school shortly after Columbine. We didn't have active shooter drills.
i am also not sure how this started, but i recently saw some armored school backpacks which made me realize how strong someone's love for the uneducated is.
Honestly I'd kind of liked more gun assault survival training as a kid
Sharing socks. My family used to have a sock basket next to our shoes. You didn't own your own socks, you just grab a pair when you need them.
I mentioned "the sock basket" offhand to a friend in elementary school and she thought it was crazy. That's when I learned that not every family has a community sock basket. Looking it up though, I find a couple reddit threads from people with the same experience (and people replying that it's weird) 🤷♀️
Don't you have different sized feet?
This was the first thing I thought of. I wonder what percentage of households consist of members who all have the same foot size? That's got to be abnormal. What, do the 5 year olds suddenly sprout size-12 feet? They don't wear socks before then?
This story sounds utterly suspicious.
~50% of men probably wear a size 9-11 shoe
That's a "Large" sock
Man with a size 8 shoe could probably still wear a "Large" sock and be fine.
~75% of women wear a size 7-9
Women with 6 or 6.5 should still be able to wear a 7-9 sized sock.
Families have genetically similar feet
I know from my experience, my father, my brother, and I all wear the same size. We all had different preferences and our own socks, but I could have easily worn their socks.
It seems easy, until you walk a mile in their socks.
Yeah it's definitely more reasonable than maybe it seems.
As kids we had pretty similarly sized feet. And I don't think I noticed if the socks I was wearing were too big or too small anyway, even now I have some socks that are bigger or smaller than others.
And my parents had their own socks, so the sock basket was just for me and the sibs.
Well, in my mid-40s, this is a new one. As long as they're clean and fit, why not?
Are socks ever clean enough? Would you do this with underwear, and why not?
Why wouldn't they be? I would assume that socks only go in the family sock basket after going through the washer/dryer.
You wash your clothes? I just put them in a room with a scented candle. /s
Maybe not entirely closely related but your comment reminded me of this: https://youtube.com/shorts/y0ja9zYBMPE
My daughters share school socks, because they are all the same colour and shape. So I guess this concept isn't too unreasonable to do it on a whole family level.
Your daughters are all the same colour and shape?
Yes. And their socks are too.
We used to do it as well at least for me and my brothers. We all got the same white tube socks so they went in the same basket by our laundry
We had a sock basket when I was a kid!
wait that's not normal?
This is unintentionally how we do it. We split up the socks after cleaning them but like a day later mom is wearing the oldest ones socks and the oldest one is wearing dads socks, and the little one has one sock from the older brother and another he found under the couch buried in dog hair.
Same same.
I think that depends on common shoe sizes. With the biggest feet there is no way I could put on anyone else's socks.
Not even sure how that would work with the different sizes we had in my family
Not being able to see anything when closing my eyes and not constantly hearing a voice in my head. I have aphantasia and thought people were always seeking metaphorically about seeing things in their head.
I only more recently learnt that people actually hear things as well as in like an internal monologue. To me, the whole thing sounds exhausting.
Well, the feeling of one side of your hip being out of place. Then twisting slightly to snap it back.
It's hip displasia.
Is this a thing for knees? Every once in a while, my knees just pop out of their sockets. It's incredibly painful, and I have to move them back by hand. I went to a doctor when I was like 18 though, and they took an x-ray, and couldn't find anything
Look into Ehlers - Danlos Syndrome, a connective tissue disorder. Sufferers describe similar symptoms.
Yes, my mother has this and this constantly happens. I also had it a few times. Not a good time.
Doctors don't know this syndrome often, how do you know it if I may ask?
I have it, the hypermobile type (hEDS)
Upside: reduced likelihood of osteoarthritis
Downside: all the pain, doctors think you're crazy
Thank you for sharing. I think I might have some symptoms, but definitely not all. The knees though :x
Do you manage without pain meds? My mom cannot unfortunately.
I suppose so, but I'm not a doctor
https://radiopaedia.org/articles/trochlear-dysplasia
For the hip there's also not a (as an adult) treatment, rather taking care to keep it in place and strengthen your muscles.
Displasia literally means “out of place”? Nifty.
Dis-place-yeah?
When I was much younger: that normal people could see much further than me.
One of my oldest memories is going into a McDonald's for the first time with glasses; I stopped and read the entire menu, because I couldn't believe normal people could read it as soon as you walked in. I always had to get up to the counter to make it out.
I got a lot better in school after that!
Growing up in a house with hoarder parents:
- Having absurd amounts of pretty much anything standing around in the house.
- Parents going through your trash and blaming you for throwing away certain things that were 'still good to use' (they weren't).
Nobody "dresscoded" me at home. As soon as I was old enough to pick my own clothing, I could. What skirts or jeans or dresses I wore was my choice completely. My school also didn't care much.
Blew my mind when I realized how many other girls had to sneak out with their clothes because the parents had a rule against tight jeans or whatever.
I still think my parents were right with this one. The kids with the strictest rules were always those with the craziest outfits. Can't blame them, I'd have done the same.
Child abuse. I thought it was normal to threaten children with violence for noncompliance. I thought it was normal to be afraid to misbehave or be suboptimal in school at the threat of violence.
Taking multiple shits every day, after a friend pointed it out that wasn't normal I did a lactose test and found out I've been lactose intolerant all my life.
Having near constant racing thoughts and always feeling like you have to work on something and if you don't it makes you anxious. I thought my boyfriend was the alien for being able to not think about anything at all and just chill and do nothing.
Ah good ole ADHD. I have a love hate relationship with mine. We're on speaking terms.
I like to describe it as being simultaneously bored and overstimulated (tbf that's also how I describe ADHD sex)
Irony is, that I'm not diagnosed so officially I'm just someone with racing thoughts and a restless soul.
Not diagnosed here too. 99pct sure I'm in the club. For 47 years I've been written off as "absent-minded" (yet everyone seeks my advice for major life shit) or "ornery" (more when I was a kid). It's just incredibly frustrating, it feels like every doc I've ever brought it up to basically just dismisses me, taking about how rare adult ADHD actually is.
...this post was just basically supposed to say "yeah I feel that"... So yeah
I sometimes randomly end up thinking about nothing but usually I'm in the racing thoughts area. So you're saying that is something not everybody needs to deal with? Is that how they fall asleep?
it's weird for me, i have ADHD traits, and also explicitly non ADHD traits, i think it's probably comorbidity with something else rather than explicitly ADHD. But that's neurology for you, sometimes it's clear, sometimes it's not, sometimes it makes no fucking sense.
I can stare at a wall just fine, but depending on what i'm doing, i need a certain minimum amount of stimulation, and just doing things feels so good.
Looking at light or sky when I need to sneeze helps me sneeze quicker.
It's apparently something to do with Photic sneeze reflex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photic_sneeze_reflex
Also, apparently some people can’t consciously control the focus distance of their eyes.
This was a surprise for me as well as a child. I thought my eyes would change in how they look when I made them blurry, but yeah, you can't see that.
Yeah all I can do is make my vision blurry, but I can't consciously adjust the distance at which I place my focus, it's just where I look. I was surprised by the fact that my eyes looked the same too.
That's interesting, for most people the brain just substitutes in the image of where your eye moves to, so it feels instantaneous. (there's no noticeable blindness) But you can see throughout the full movement?
In a similar vein, I never understood having a "dominant eye". I honestly don't really understand the concept, I guess most people's brains will cancel out information from one eye?
- Hold out your arm at arm's length
- Make a circle with your thumb and index finger
- Look through the circle at an object on the other side of the room
- Now slowly bring the circle back to your eye, such that your fingers never obscure the object, and it's always centered in the circle
Which eye did your circle arrive at?
That's your dominant eye!<
Edit: formatting, I'm a Markdown dumbass
TIL that my nose is my dominant eye! (I think I'm not doing something correctly.)
I've heard of this test before, and it makes no sense to me. If I focus on a distant object, I see two images of my hand, one for each eye. So I'd have to choose which one to put over the object.
What? I think most people see them together. Do you have to consciously compare the two images to perceive depth?
Not at all, I perceive depth fine.
If I focus back on my hand, the two images align, and I see both images of the background. It's just that I'm always seeing information from both eyes.
If anything, from my perspective it's everyone else who I would expect to have difficulties with depth perception. You're only perceiving one eye consciously, (In the binocular overlap region), and the other eye is just used for depth information by your subconscious, is that correct?
No the brain does funky stuff mixing the pictures together. If I move something close enough to my face it appears in view twice seemingly semi-transparent. The rest of my visual perception remains unaffected though.
Are you also constantly aware of your blind spot(s)? (Something that with the single image is completely invisible)
If I move something close enough to my face it appears in view twice seemingly semi-transparent
That sounds like what I experience, not just for things very close to my face, whenever my eyes are aligned to something in front or behind.
But in order to do the dominant eye test, you need to only see one image in the foreground and background simultaneously. So how does that happen unless the view from one eye is at least partially supressed?
This is one of those things that's really hard to talk about and describe, but I would love to actually understand it. Also no, I can't notice my blind spots.
I learned something. My nose but also the corner of my left eye seem to be dominant.
That's interesting, I can see both circles but my hand does always go to my right eye unless I force myself to look at the other. That makes sense I guess because my right eye is more focused at a distance. I wonder if that switches though when I look at something close up for a while, because my left eye is more focused then.
My eyes still focus automatically (though a bit slow sometimes). But if I want to, I can get my eyes out of focus pretty easily.
Yeah I can defocus my eyes too, I assume most people can. I've never heard of someone being able to see during saccades though.
Ah sorry I forgot there was another part of that comment when i read your reply lol
Also, apparently some people can’t consciously control the focus distance of their eyes.
It's a sailboat!
A schooner is a sailboat, stupid head.
Also, apparently some people can’t consciously control the focus distance of their eyes.
TIL that some people can't do that. huh
Like wiggling your ears, I believe it can be learned
I'm kind of weird I think in that I can focus further away than something I'm looking at, but I can't focus closer than something I'm looking at. At the same time though I can cross my eyes to converge closer, but can't push them apart to converge further away.
Had to look up what it was. I haven't heard of it before but yeah it's just blurry.
You might think that but the brain is great at 'in-betweening', do the stopwatch Libet test and see what you get
Some people don't own their home. They rent it. Took me a while until I realised that we were the abnormal ones for owning homes.
Oh plenty of things:
having respect for others
being honest
helping the needy
fair pay for fair work
honestly considering others' perspectives
loyalty
Basically every virtue I was ever told was worthy to embody has been used against me as a weapon or a tool
And of the hundreds of people I know IRL less than 10% give any of these internal value or even attempted to put into practice
And here I've been a sucker all my life doing the proper social contract thing because I don't like the way the world is shaping up and getting CONSTANTLY bent over for it
- "Maladaptive Daydreaming"
- I have an issue with being remembered in person (at least that's what my therapist said). I will go to different chains of the same store on rotation, or stop going to a store all together if they remember me "too much." I'll wait until shift changes or that it's been long enough that they've forgotten about me. I've stopped going to certain places all together if there's no alternatives. Outside of lemmy, I have no social media. I don't want anyone to ever be able to look me up. Apparently people don't do that.
- Using different cutlery based off of meal size/how long you want to savor something (ex: You like ice cream, so you may eat it with a smaller spoon so it lasts longer.).
- Wondering what people were thinking/picturing when they bought their clothes (not in a "wow, that's ugly, what were they thinking" but what they saw themselves as. Did they see this suit and think of themselves as a ceo? Did she buy thay dress and imagine the places she'll wear it? That sort of thing).
- Having multiple paths to one place. I could get to my classes or office multiple ways. I would rotate, take these stairs one day, this elevator the next, etc.
- I believed everyone had some kind of food that would give them the boo-boos. I'm actually just lactose intolerant.
It's not normal for a boy to think "of course I would rather be a girl who wouldn't want to be a girl?"
But it IS normal for a girl to think "of course I'd rather be a boy", right?
Right??
Who's gonna tell him?
Well given how much harder it is to be a girl than a boy in our world,I bet it is more common.
There's a difference between "I wish I had the privileges and expectations of being a boy" and "I wish I had a penis"
There is, the musing wasn't that specific
I think it's hard for both in different ways but let's never discount which gender by a large margin leads the suicide count
Being a boy is lonely in ways girls will never know
Being a girl is stressful in ways boys will never know
Boys can handle the kinds of stresses that overwhelm girls, in a way that's why we are here
On the other hand, I've almost never met a girl who when exposed to just how needy we are on the inside doesn't respond with at least slight disgust. Only twice have I ever seen true compassion and even then the experience was harrowing for them.
I think that's a normal thing to think if you are a guy that physics glitched on.
I think it's a normal thing to think if you are really a girl that physics glitched on.
That people poo every day or every other day, not once a week.
3/week to 3/day is considered normal in many docs I read. As my body started to hate gluten, I was up to like 6/day. Now back down to 2-3 (but sorely missing bread, pizza, etc.)
Lactose for me. No more cheese or ice cream or it's also back to 6/day. Luckily there is medicine for the occasional treat.
Try well aged hard cheese, most of the lactose is processed by the microbes. Naturally fermented yogurt is also low in lactose, but it needs to be thick and only 2 ingredients (milk and culture), if it is runny or has thickeners, avoid.
Good quality butter also has minimal lactose. It should basically be 100% fat.
Be careful though, it may be a dairy protein intolerance rather than lactose, usually this is more severe.
Vegan cheese and non dairy ice cream are pretty good these days! Ben and Jerry's has a pretty big line of them, and miyokos makes amazing cheese!
Vegan cheese isn't really a thing here in Japan (hell, "real" cheese in general isn't), but I can say Japan also has some pretty decent soy-based icecreams.
I haven't heard of that before, very interesting! Thanks for sharing :)
I need so many lactaid pills to help I just gave up and accept the bathroom.
I was taught the 3/3 rule in pathology class fwiw.
did you ever get tested for celiacs, and or insensitivity? thats usualy the most common thing.
A parent has Celiac's and I know I'm a carrier of one of the associated variants related to it from an old DNA test. For unrelated reasons (positive for blood fecal occult of yearly health check), I had cameras in basically all of me and they found no indications. However, I had been mostly gluten free for months. Before the stomach camera, I did eat gluten for a few days, but nothing interesting showed up. I was told I could do some blood tests off insurance at a high price (probably not too crazy since this is Japan and not the US), but it wouldn't actually be useful; currently there are no medications approved for use in relation to celiac's in Japan and it would just make my life insurance more expensive and have other potential weird side effects.
My mom and her side have always had issues as well, being diagnosed as IBS among other things. I chose to get sterilized so at least the problem, whatever it is, ends here, heh.
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Looks like we have representation from both ends of the spectrum here 😅
Poopin every morning with your morning coffee (as seen on tv) is a weakness. Be proud!
My family was super meat-centric for all holidays except Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Any meal where it's physically possible to barbecue, we would. And a family barbecue meant hamburgers, hot dogs, chicken, pork steaks, and beef steaks -- one of each per person, plus a couple of extras. Sides were German-style slaw and potato salad. Buns were not included, but my grandma would always put a stack of white bread on the table (she was the only person who ever ate it).
When I started dating my husband and took him to a family holiday, he was shocked by the fact that my whole family was eating hamburgers and hot dogs with flatware instead of on buns. And he was actually sad at the lack of side dishes.
When I went to one of his family barbecues, I was sad that there was just one hamburger per person (already on a soggy bun) and a ton of weird casseroles.
Grab the one of the middle knuckles of one of your fingers firmly with your other hand. Now slide the skin to your fingertip, then down to the base knuckle.
What's that? You can't do that, because the skin is fixed in place? Well, imagine my surprise when I learned penises aren't supposed to be like that.
At Easter, my family had a tradition where Easter Bunny left notes telling us where the next set of eggs were and we'd follow a trail of clues around the house. I thought everyone did it that way
Struggling not to act on my impulses all the time, doing foolish things before thinking and not being able to go more than a brief period without embarrassing myself. I thought everyone dealt with impulse control issues. Oh hey Adhd, nice to see you.
Intense aversion to unpreferred tasks
You can't say that!!!
Standing to wipe your ass
Physical abuse as a child.
Also: aphantasia
You have no idea how pissed I was to find out all of you had a fucking superpower, would have been nice to learn this before I wasted 3 years at graphic design
Having basic empathy for other living beings, actually make it through hard work alone. Having enough time for a hobby.
spelling goto as one word.
Well, you should write readable code…
ya buddy?! Well you can just goto EOL
EDIT: I should probably premise this that EOL in this funny context is End-Of-Line, which is an old programming term. I'm not referring to End of Life.
It may be old but I think it is still in use.
GOTO 10
It's quite BASIC, really...
Lmao this was the first thought that came into my mind after reading the post 😅
The single-word version should be your go-to spelling.
Tell that to nasm
I will never live down the shame of using 'wend' in a conversation
Synesthesia. I was about 20 before I learned it has a name and not everyone has strong colour associations for numbers and letters, or sees a visible map of time in their head, or has music take shape. It never occurred to me to question it because it's always been my norm.
Being able to picture something in my mind, and having that picture be as realistic as real life! I actually found out this wasn't normal here on Lemmy, so not all that long ago! 😅
My brother-in-law grew up thinking everyone had three sets of grandparents. His mother's parents were divorced and each remarried
Limited joint range. I just thought that's as far as they went. It still freaks me out slightly when I see people using a normal range, as if they'd just turned their heads through 360° or bent their knees the wrong way.
My first long term relationship was with a woman who could orgasm from penetration in less than a minute.
I skateboard mongo and was surprised to learn that I'm basically a mutant and shouldn't be able to interact with others like normal people.
That democracy would result in truth and national interest instead of Israel/US empire maximal warmongering lies.
We haven't had democracy since the Dimpled Chad incident
What the fuck is "Israel/US empire" supposed to be?
Israel has significant influence over US empire. Neocon movement is fully overlapped by zionist supremacism and their middle east war plans/actions. US empire does have some independence from Israel over warmongering lies meant to target Russia and China.
But democracy under US empire serves only US empire, which was the big surprise factor.
Watching porn to get relief.
I – as many other guys in this society – learned to watch porn at a young age. So I wired sexual stimulation as well as the dopamine release after orgasm to porn. For many years of my life, I would not masturbate without it.
I denied my addiction because everyone watches porn, right? Also I thought, being addicted to porn means sitting at home all day fapping and watching more and more perverse stuff. So I can't be addicted, if I watch porn once a week, right?
Well, it took me a long time to figure all that out. The society having such a positive attitude towards porn did not help. Maybe, we all are addicted. I think it's super fucked up. If not due to the effect it has on our brains, then at least due to the humiliation of women for capital.
That not everyone cracked their head open as a kid. I just assumed everyone has had stitches in their forehead until I was in my twenties, everyone I knew had some sort of scar like that.
I sniff things. I have a habit where if I am given something I sniff it first looking for a scent first. I do it more often with food than anything else, because I have childhood roach trauma and if anybody has had to deal with the german ones they have a specific smell. Clothing, body care products, boxes, tools, leaves, etc. I sniff it first before I do anything with it. I didn't realize it was weird until my roommate asked me why I kept sniffing things he gave me to hold.
I also shake my towel before using it (IYKYK). I'm trying to break myself on this one.
In highschool nobody told me it's not normal to put on Off like body spray before bed.
Anything I am given from my mom or someone I'm not familiar with I leave it out in the sun 100's ft away from the house for multiple days before I bring it it. I have to inspect every bit of it, shake it, turn it over, etc. Apparently that is not normal, according to some of my coworkers.
I have holes in my fingertips that turn into ulcers and then get better, but it cycles. I've been to the doctor multiple times, they are stumped.
I tend to pick at food when I am at someone's house, especially if I'm new or they recently had a pest problem they've let me know about. I'm shut down, I can only drink water or I have to wait it out and then get food outside the home. I feel like a bad house guest but I'm so scared of eating bugs or mouse droppings.
A lot of my abnormalities seem to stem from some sort of trauma response - I know these aren't normal* now *but trying to break away from some of them is incredibly hard. I have just gotten to the point where I don't ask anyone if I can shower before I actually shower in my home(it slips sometimes, I can't help it). As an adult I realize I look like a paranoid ninny and I think my long time best friend just didn't want to cause a breakdown or something when we were still in high school. I know she probably saw and knew, but I'm lucky I have her and her family worked with kids similar to my situation for a long time so they were the least judgmental people I knew during the dark ages. Also life is tons better, I just need to work on my weird habits like sniffing things. That's gonna get me one of these days.
Rinsing off with the shower head after a bath. You don't take your clothes out of the washer—nor your dishes out of the dishwasher—without doing a rinse cycle first, so why should it be any different for your body?
Dabbing in-and-out instead of wiping front-to-back/back-to-front. You're literally spreading shit all over your crack if you wipe instead of dab. All you gotta do is spread your cheeks before you sit down, and cleanup will be minimal cause everything will stay near your asshole instead of smearing all over your cheeks.
Wait hold up on the first one. Doesn't everyone do a quick rinse with the shower after a bath? You've been sitting in soapy skin soup!
I wash myself prior to the bath not during it
This might be big brained
I like a bubble bath with extra suds.
I usually don't. I don't take a bath if I'm completely covered in dirt. The actual concentration of dirt or skin in the bathwater has to be incredibly low. I take a bath to relax, not to get clean.
People don't do this? Sitting in dirty water for a period of time doesn't make me feel any cleaner.
I don't take a bath to get clean, I take a bath to relax. Showering at the end would undo the relaxed state
Shower first, then bathe & relax.
That first party warranty repair services sometimes don't allow having a second party do the repair.
I have always just been able to bring the item into the nearest repair facility, and just have them do the repair under warranty, it wasn't until today that I learned there is some brands that straight out won't let you do anything but the ship in and fix style warranties. I would figure it would be cheaper to allow second party repair reimbursement but nope.
Rationality
I didn't learn that adults don't stand to wipe until I was like 17
You still can if you want, but maybe don't stand to use a bidet.
Depends on your water pressure
And on the splash zone
I literally don’t understand how people sit and wipe (no bidet). Do you fucking lay on your side to make this happen? If you’re an adult, the toilet opening isn’t that huge to just shove your arm down there, and wipe and if you’re a man then scooting up to get back there makes your penis touch the nasty ass toilet.
So what’s the solution? A slight hover while bent over? Other than that there’s only standing. I don’t understand how people do this. 😂
Just scoot forwards a bit?
You lean a little. I don't know how to word with without being crass, but I feel like if you're standing the cheeks are together and you can't get in there. 😅
Can’t believe I am writing this crap to strangers online. Ha!
Well, if you’re standing you use a hand to spread a cheek and you wipe with the other. There’s no need to grab the cheek so deep you’re touching anything that would be there, just enough to separate. You can get in there no problem.
What if you have a big butt?
Ok obviously you know this happens and you know it's stupid and impractical to lay on your side
All the bits that need cleaning are right their up front with just a flat hand extended to get the arch of the backdoor. If you can jerk your rod sitting down then it's only 3 more inches till you're wiping your shitter
So don't pretend it's some kind of acrobatic feat
But my question is, mr. standing wiper, how the fuck do you get to your taint, or do you have to do 2 trips?
Lol learning a friend of mine still did that when he was like 22 was wild. He got so belligerent and tough and chest poundy when everybody was surprised. It's not weird, really, but I still like to tease him for whatever I can since he's such a cunt most of the time, being 6'5 and jacked and rich and smart and just an asshole in general... And I'm a masochist and he was really hot and towered over me and constantly bullied me 🥵
Excessive alcohol consumption
The way I was raised.
for men to wish to be a woman