Metal genres
9mon 20d ago by slrpnk.net/u/Track_Shovel in lemmyshitpost from slrpnk.net
Nothing is more metal than respecting the right to self-determination and the fun of others. Don't be close-minded. Enjoy what you enjoy, don't be a snob, let other people have fun and stop thinking about categories.
Metal peaked with the first three black sabbath albums.
Black Sabbath on Black Sabbath by Black Sabbath is everything you need to know about metal.
^ Classic Metal Purist
Dude, volume 4 is a masterpiece, with the exception of FX, which is just Iommi stoned out his mind and fucking with his pedalboard. There's a really good rehash of it done by several artists calls Volume 4 Redux.
The New Wave of Traditional Heavy Metal is outstanding. Bands like Haunt (Eric Church), Night Demon, witchcraft and Green Lung are all amazing, have solid sized libraries and are great starting points into other stuff
There are also really cool metal bands out there like Panopticon - he combines black metal and bluegrass with strongly anticapitalistic lyrics.
Dude, as someone who moved on from metal after the Black Album (completely pigeonholed classic purist), I'm so amazed you have turned me on to 4 bands all of which I really like on first listen. Thank you so much for giving metal a new lease on life for me! I didn't know anyone was making really good thrashy stuff like this any more.
Try using gnoosic.com to suggest new artists. Its surprisingly old, but uses an algorithm. The algorithm predates AI by like a decade or something - it's just someone's nerdy pet project. It's recommended me bands that have 25 monthly listeners lol.
Clicking on the 'listeners also liked' thing on your streaming service is also a good way to find bands.
Hot take: Most metal is just Classical Music II Electric Bugaloo.
I snorted.
The prog purist makes your point to be honest.
What about the nu-metal peeps, where do we fit in?
I would say numetal is having a renaissance, so many cool young bands coming through
We were kicked out long ago. No one talks to us
If things keep going this way I might just break something tonight.
I feel their hate crawling on my skin, these wounds they will not heal
Boom na da noom na nanema! Da boom na da noom na namena! Da boom na ba noom na namena!
Hold on while I push my fingers into my eyes.
Is it because we brought Skrillex on stage with us?
The classic is just a subgenre of dad.
I think that Dad is the casual version of Classic.
Dad is the only one I'd hang out with
I used to have only band shirts. Like i would buy a shirt on every concert i went to and had around 400 shirts. There was no reason to ever buy normal shirts. The "dad" guys would always look at my shirt and say something like: "infant annihilator"? I like AC/DC. Always cracked me up.
I feel like I have achieved true metal nirvana since I stopped caring about silly labels. They're only half useful for finding new stuff anyway. If the music activates my dopamine generators, I like it. The only thing I avoid is gutturals, I don't want a fucking horror movie creature on the microphone, thank you.
I can't do the pig squeal sounding screams, but a good heavy vocalist can add so much to the range of emotion. It was an acquired taste for me, though. I had friends trying to show me BTBAM thinking I'd appreciate the complexity, but it took ages for me to really hear everything through the wall of sound. Looking up lyrics helped massively, along with finding bands that blend the heavy and clean vocals so there were spots I could sing along with. I'd love to learn to scream properly so I could belt out some gutturals
Honestly, I used to feel the same way for a long long time. I actually ended up getting into got it all vocals through bands like Svalbard, Brutus, thranenkind and enferens
That led to atmospheric black metal. Now I can enjoy bands like Uada but I have to be in the right mood
I think I'm "it's all metal" because I don't care to give thought to every subgenre of metal. If it sounds good, I like it. I have to laugh at the description though because I do really enjoy melodic death metal and I blame Avatar for that.
Ne Obliviscaris
Commenting to come back later and check out some of the filth you heathens are into
Electric Callboy and Ghost.
muhahahaha
I heard people say that ghost is metal for people who don't like metal and i can't stop thinking about it.
Sorry I listen to mostly metalcore
As a dedicated metal-type autist for over 15 years I am proud to say I'm not on this list. I am the Ambassador, the Professor, the Diplomat. I welcome any and all into the fold and love to help people find their niche. My personal taste leans towards prog, black, and death but my knowledge runs deep and I love to share it.
I'm not really into metal, but I dabble a bit because I like great guitar playing in any genre, but I appreciate your stance. I'm like you, but with other genres like Classical, Jazz, Blues, World Music, and Classic Rock. There are a lot of gatekeepers in those genres, and I like to guide noobs past them, and into new music they can love.
Guitar virtuosity is rampant in metal! You should take a look at Tosin Abasi - start with TRAM, then his bandmate Javier's project Mestís, then his band Animal's as Leaders's album The Joy of Motion. TRAM is modern jazz, Mestís is very Spanish influenced, and AAL is one of my favorite bands of all time. All (primarily) instrumental.
CHON and Covet are both chill prog/math-rock with incredible guitar work. I'd recommend CHON's Newborn Sun EP or Homey LP. Covet's first two releases, Currents EP and Effloresce, have been my sleeping music every night for a couple years at this point.
I can recommend heavier/harsh stuff as well, but based on your current preferences these are good starting points. Feel free to keep replying or DM if you want more!
Some interesting suggestions! I'll get to exploring! Thanks brother!
Any suggestions for something microtonal? Preferrably polyrhythmic as well.
Check out Blotted Science and Behold...the Arctopus! Anything with Ron Jarzombek (Blotted) and Colin Marston (Behold) should scratch that itch. I don't have much microtonal in the library but now you've got me wanting to dig deeper. I'll get back to you in a few days!
Otherwise if you're cool with avant-garde in general I'd also recommend Dodecahedron, Imperial Triumphant, Igorrr, Meshuggah (THE polyrhythm kings), and Unexpect.
Think I'm way pass that point... My current itch scratchers of choice are Maddie Ashman for microtonal, Means End/Chromaform for harmonic, and Car Bomb for rhythmic crazyness. Surprisingly, I haven't ever given "Behold…the Arctopus!" a serious listen, even though I've seen that meme video a long time ago... guess I wasn't ready for it yet. Thanks for the reminder, will def check them out!
I'm absolutely "the gatekeeper", but these days I like to keep the gate open and welcome newcomers who are interested in hearing an old man's ramblings.
This is where I fit - really obscure tastes, but instead of gate keeping, I'm like a Jehovah's witness showing up at your door, pushing bands on you if you show even the slightest interest
I am very interested.
But usually I like one or two songs from one interpreter, there are very few albums I like whole (Wintersun by Wintersun is the main exception, that is amazing from start to end).
So it's hard for me to find new music that I like.
I've got a bunch of recommendations scattered throughout the post. Give them a whirl
I'm the gatekeeper, but I only listen to death, grind and doom. Everything else is more or less bullshit. Especially melodeath.
I only listen to neo-zwinx-slamcore with progressive elements.
That doesn't seem fun at all. I listen to what I like, independent of genre and just respect people that have different tastes than me. Except gatekeepers, get outta here with that snobby attitude.
I do listen to whatever I like thank you, but it happens my tastes are limited. And I don't give a shit what others are listening, as long as they don't force on me.
You're telling me you never get in a silly mood and put on some In Flames? But only old In Flames, not that new shit.
I used to be an In Flames fan when I got into metal, but I grew out of it and can't stand that shit anymore. With maybe the exception of a little Amon Amarth.
The Thrashers would like a word with you...
I guess I'm a gatekeeper, but only because some guy used "hey babe, I can play Smoke on the Water by Metallica, want to come over and listen?" as a pickup line, and I laughed at him.
The "It's all metal" guy is an astro physicist.
I'm "it's all metal" but in all genres. I just enjoy listening to whatever track that sparks joy (you definitely wouldn't like me DJing on your party, lol)
Where do Powerwolf fans land on this list? Because I am one but I have genuinely no idea if that gives me cred or if that makes me the FNG.
Probably The Weeb archetype. It's the only one that mentions power metal. Guess I'm one too.
Am also into power metal, I didn't learn about metal from anime OPs but I have a few on my playlist.
I have this problem where I love some good metal guitar, but most of the stuff with the sound that I like also includes vocals reminiscent of Christian Bale's Batman with a sore throat, which I do not enjoy. Either that or overly edgy lyrics.
Try Haunt - he can sing. Same with Night demon
Have you considered going instrumental?
Try Sinergy.
Now these are real lemmy hours
Btw, it's all metal
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I used to be one or some or all of these.
But some time in the 2010s, or rather over the course of the last 10-15 years, i stopped listening to music by genre and started listening to music by what made me feel good. Like, my phone is filled with music from so many different genres now i can't really call myself anything in terms of music subculture. I'm a music "generalist"? I listen to anything that sounds good to me and don't cut myself off from any genre just because it is said genre.
Except pop.
fuck pop.
I kinda feel this. Some years ago I was a diehard Hardcore (Techno) and Uptempo enjoyer and would not listen to anything else. Then about one year ago I kinda stopped caring and now I listen to a whole bunch of stuff (but still mainly Techno) except pop. Pop is absolutely lame in my opinion. It has nothing that makes a single song stand out from any other. No kicks, no drops, no provocation. It only cares about being liked by the masses.
Pop music is so weird to listen to for me. It's like it's engineered by 12 different people to sound catchy. The equivalent of a movie showing a dog dying and the filmmakers are very proud of themselves because they were able to make people sad with a movie.
I think its fair to say i have a favourite genre, or multiple favourites, but that is no longer exclusive or exclusionary. All music is welcome, i will no longer judge a song by its genre.
I attribute the change to having different social groups in my life. When i was in school i was into rock and thwn metal and that was pretty much the only thing i liked. Later i got in with a crowd that was more into techno, dnb, dubstep, house, minimal etc and grew to appreciate it, and love it, around the same time i was playing in bands and learning the blues, and got into jazz more recently. Always liked classical because of my piano lessons when i was young. It opened my mind up to so much more.
Except pop :)
I feel that with the social circle. In the city I moved for university we have a small student club and there the often play quite a lot of acid techno, dnb and other techno variants. Also a friend of mine is deeply into dnb and this 100% influenced my music taste.
Yeah I've focused more on finding stuff I like, and that happens to primarily be punk music. But there's a lot of stuff I like and really the only genres that I can't do are country (it's just nails on chalkboard for me) and pop (because it's too over-engineered)
My wife and my oldest enjoy some pop music and I can find the parts I enjoy but it has to be small doses and has to be something with a hint of actual creativity and soul to it
I'm the 'It's all metal' guy and I'm proud of it.
Babymetal & Poppy ftw
Uhh no idea where I fit here; Amon Amarth, Devildriver, Machine Head, Fear Factory..Metallica (Black and prior), Megadeth, NIN, and Tool / APC - and so much more.
I think I'm mostly "It's all good if it's angry and loud" but I do run across bands and genres on occasion that I just can't get into.
You are a 1999 Metal Hammer magazine.
I've been called out as the gatekeeper :( . Though I do occasionally delve into darker electronic genres like dark ambient or some DnB.
Join the rest of us gatekeepers, you know, unless you are a poser, or something: thrashmetal@lemmy.world heavymetal@lemmy.world
As a Prog Purist myself, this is 100% accurate
Y'all sound like everyone did about rock 20 years ago. In Flames is my favorite btw.
Listening to Tool right now, love 'Maiden but enjoy pre Bruce as much as the rest... NIN, Anthrax, Sick of it All, Type O Negative, Paradise Lost, Sepultura...must be some kinda metal chameleon circa 90s-00s!
If you like Type O, listen to Woods of Ypres
Not heard of them, thanks for the recommendation, that'll be tonight's listening sorted!
I'm the "it's all metal" guy.
I like noise punk and shoegaze. I don't get metal. Like we get it you make big noisey but you got nothing to say beside harry potter stories
How about some blackgaze then? Alcest and Deafheaven are amazing.
I'm all over backgaze/atmospheric black metal. Alcest is an entry level drug.
Checkout:
- A Different Cloud
- Sadness
- Old Graves - sadly small library
- Forrest of Shadows
will do!! thx
I knew about Alcest, but will have a look at Deafheaven. Will give an hear, thanks.
Although I just recieved a guitar so I spend most of my time listening to my own music over and over
Okay but as a guitarist, the guitarist from Galneryus is absolutely fucking insane.
I've known about them for a long time and they've evolved spectacularly.
Also, you're either a music enjoyer or annoying snob. Do not be a snob.
I recommend Haunt. Eric Church can shred like a mofo
Trivium, killswitch (with Howard Jones), and dio are all great. Metallica sucks.
Howard Jones is an incredible vocalist. Have you heard his (not so new anymore) band Light the Torch?
Goddamnit I have a song by Galneryus in the playlist™ I feel called out
edit: Did not know they had anything to do with HunterxHunter or w/e so I feel like that redeems me. never mind that I got their music from a different anime.
Im either "The Dad" or "Its all metal". I really dont give a shit. If I'm headbanging, its a bop
Random question - anyone know a good site to buy digital music that pays the artists somewhat decently? I've got a few artists I need to get albums from after bailing on Spotify and they aren't on Bandcamp and don't has album sales linked to their official sites. Hell, even physical copies of some albums are hard to come by in the US.
I saw "7Digital" mentioned somewhere but I see there multiple listings for the same album at different prices (literally the exact same album, exact same quality) which makes me suspect it's not as legit as I had hoped.
I tend to use Bandcamp, they have a thing on the first Friday of every month where they give a bigger cut to artists if you buy that day.
Edit: Just realised you said you couldn't find the band on Bandcamp, oops.
I use tidal - they get a much better chunk out of the profits. There's another new one out there but I can't recall it's nsm
It seems Tidal is streaming only. There is Qobuz but I hear them mentioned by people looking for Hi-Fi. Their streaming service seems to pay higher than average.
I guess I'll just have to assume the compensation is decent for digital purchases as well. Having Hi-Fi audio quality doesn't hurt - I can always transcode it if I need to stream or convert it if I need to cram it in a small storage device.
I look like Dad, but I'm a fuckin new guy to metal. To his credit, my best friend got me to appreciate Ozzy, Metallica, and Dio in high school. But it took Dimmu Borgir live in Oslo with the choir and orchestra to finally make harsh vocals click for me. I like thrash, speed, power, melodic, folk, prog, and some select black metal. I try not to support Nazi bands.
This meme makes me want to try more metal, and I think that makes me as bad as "the weeb"
I also drew direct comparisons to the electronic music subgenres.
Little bit of all of these tbh
Classic / Dad
Especially 'metal died after 1991'.
I guess I would be closest to "the prog purist", though I love power metal, and other subgenres too, so I could also be in the "it's all metal" category.
This list seems to be incomplete, there are other metal fan archetypes
cant find myself, garbage list obv.
Check out "Rare and Obscure Metal Archives" sometime, very nice
I feel like I'm "Its all metal" cause I don't judge and will listen to a lot of it as long as I can understand the vocals. But I'll lean more towards the classic stuff like early Sabbath and Dio (both rainbow, sabbath and solo) and if its more modern it just ends up being Iron Maiden (I still love The Final Frontier or Book Of Souls... which are 15 and 10 years old now.. fuck me) or Megadeth. No idea of any new artists after like 2000 lol. I don't see myself here. Maybe "The Casual" is missing.
I have no strong opinions I just love Opeth so much
Try Vvilderness
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My cutoff is anything before the Black Album. So they've pretty much got me nailed- Classic Metal Purist. Though I do like modern Stoner and Desert Rock.
Why kind of metal is Hoobastank?
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Can you guys suggest me something like Dinoysus
i dont recognize half the words
My taste in metal is pretty much based on how cool it sound while playing dark souls
prog purist here. Dream Theater? ewww
I was never really into prog, i like some songs, but i would have a hard time to name 10 prog bands. I had no idea dream theatre was even considered prog rock.
Okay can somebody explain the appeal of 4/4 to me?
It's a perfect score
Isn't that just the "default" rhythm for most music?
Why though!?
Because 4/4 = 1
It's just easy and intuitive. It's a steady beat, and then you halve the intervals and halve those again.
Triplets are also quite common.
Right but like... It's not good.
I mean I understand you might prefer other rhythms but now you're just being edgy :D
I just think 4/4 is for musically illiterate children.
Haha! Now you're just taking the piss. Vivaldi, Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, and any number of modern composers have composed plenty of music in 4/4. Whatever bias you have against western music, there's no denying they knew their shit.
People have been fucking their children for thousands of years too. I guess that makes fucking children almost as good as music in 4/4
But what's appealing about it? What's to like!?
Well, 4/4 is definitely the easiest to dance to. It's also the easiest to ignore in lieu of whatever else is going on musically. It appeals to the lowest common denominator. Not that 4/4 has to be boring or predictable.
So its there because its barely music, and in the western nusical tradition it's very popular. Cool. Love that. Why would i listen to anuthibg else.
predictability
So being boring?
Not really. Whether or not a piece of music is boring has very little to do with the time signature.
It's more like a framework.
Perhaps it's also boring that most paintings are done on rectangular canvases, but I don't think a painting necessarily gets particularly more interesting by being done on an oddly shaped canvas.
Predictability can be important in music, depending on what you're doing. If the audience can't follow your rhythm, they won't enjoy the music. I assume you're a different audience, that's fine too.
Having a boring rhythm doesn't mean the rest of the music has to be boring :)