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How would you feel if someone moved next to your residence and you found out they're a cop? Would you move away? Or try to get on their good side? Or something else?

3mon 19d ago by sh.itjust.works/u/DeathByBigSad in asklemmy

Nothing. Not even talk to them. Being cordially distant.

Pretty much how I am with all of my neighbors anyway…

Same.

Mostly mind my own business, but expect to have to record and report a domestic abuse.

Houses cost roughly 1 house

Moving the stuff inside and the fees and the increased interest rate cost another 1 house. If we're keeping track, that's > 1 house to move to one house other than your current one house.

Good for you

I lived a couple houses down from a cop.

His whole family were dickish Karen types and got the annual block party shut down. Their house was regularly egged and TPd until they moved. I may or may not have been involved in some of those eggings.

Did your block party get resurrected after they moved?

I'm sure you weren't egging it, you were at my place that night

I would just mind my business . If he occasionally needs to use a trash can or whatever, I'm not causing any trouble. No reason to assume the worst, but if he starts causing trouble, yeah moving would be the only solution there.

Most people can't afford to just "move".

We had cops for neighbours at one place and one down the street in another. Both great people. Used to get together with them, kids played together, etc.

Great people don't remain cops for long, so I really doubt it

I still know one of them. Have been an acquaintance of another cop for 15 years. Still great people.

Until they witness their coworkers do awful things and say nothing.

And I can tell you with certainty that's what they do, because the ones that do try to do the right thing are fired at best, and literally murdered at worst.

!! What country do you live in?

The US. Look up Christopher Dorner for just one, high profile, example.

I don't think you can judge cops worldwide by the cops in your country.

Ok.

This must be US thing I presume?

ACAB applies worldwide, not just the US.

That's pretty bullshit. And I'm sorry for everyone that thinks this is the case since they probably doesn't meet normal ones that often as I do...

Just ignore them? I already ignore my neighbours that aren't pricks, ignoring a prick is no different

My grandmother lived next to cop. You don't want to live next to a cop. They think they're the authority over EVERYTHING. He built his fence three feet into her yard. What an asshole, thinking he'd run over a 90 year old lady. We forced him to move it.

Get them really drunk than feed them drugs while you record it for a get out of jail free card.

If you can pull it off, that might legit be worth it, just in case. In a single party consent jurisdiction making the recording wouldn't even be illegal (IANAL).

Of course, in a perfect world, the cop wouldn't take drugs, and if they did, would put justice over their personal worry you might hypothetically leak it. I'll let the readers hash out the probabilities.

Cops can be fine, many of them want to do good. But law enforcement also attracts/breeds a certain type of thumbhead person that either loves or hates you.

My general rule for cops is to keep my head down. They have no particular reason to bother me, but they're also a certain kind of person. (Inevitably, because the job is awful and nobody else can handle it long-term)

What is awful about the job? I've never done it so I don't know. But it seems like they cannot be fired, even if they mess up so badly that someone dies. That doesn't sound so bad to me.

They deal confrontationally with the worst people available at their worst moments, and sometimes do it all day. Movies make us think it's all masterminds and shootouts, but actual calls are 99% drunks, bullies and wife-beaters.

Like, think of the most toxic interaction you've ever had. Now consider doing it multiple times a week. You either become toxic yourself or you burn out.

Edit: You know the Florida man meme? Florida just has laws that get more details published. It's like that everywhere, and probably less funny and more traumatic in person.

Okay but when i'm in a toxic situation at work I can't shoot someone and get away without consequences lol.

When police show up to a scene, ordinary citizens have no power over them whatsoever. The police have the upper hand, every single time. Whereas if I get into an argument with a co-worker, client, or shopper I could be fired.

The reason workplaces are toxic are because employees are powerless. Police can literally murder people anytime they want and get away with it.

Sure, and if you're the sort of person that needs everything to be sorted into neat black or white bins, maybe that's relevant.

The fact that getting screamed at and spit on is unpleasant remains, though.

Police officers aren't regularly screamed at or spit on. Where are you getting your information from? Are you just making it up?

Yes, they are. You think whatever asshole doing a domestic is above it? They manufacture spit hoods because that's a regular issue.

I literally witnessed an arrest like this myself within the past month or so.

So your evidence is... a single witness event? And you think that means it happens with regularity? I'm sorry but something isn't adding up. : /

And the entire industry of manufacturing spit hoods, and furnishing prisons with things they won't stab each other with, and various other grim things. And common knowledge. And those shitty live cop shows that used to be on. And common sense that criminals aren't nice.

It's also not the first such thing I've personally seen, and probably won't be the last. You see, I'm not rich like typical Lemmings, and (not to be a dick about it) honestly probably you.

"And common knowledge".

You haven't provided any real evidence that what you say is true so I'm going to chalk this up to adolescent infatuation.

Last thought before I go. Maybe if cops weren't such horrible human beings they wouldn't be hated by people?

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Nah, people will hate over the dumbest, tiniest things. I'm a Jew, Germans are and were perfectly nice people. You probably hate me right now, and I haven't done anything. At the other end, terrible people have done wonderful things.

I know you're going to forget this exchange ever happened, but if I could pick a takeaway, it actually wouldn't have anything to do with the police. (Hey, I don't like them either)

I don't hate you

we the working class are in this together.

Cop lives somewhere down the street.

I ignore him.

But I also have talked to the neighbors on purpose like. Twice. In almost twenty years lol.

Not really pay attention to them at all. Can't be arsed to care, unless they start waving that gun.

I wouldn’t really be able to just up and move so I’d just avoid them as much as possible and hope for the best

There was a cop in the neighbor right outside ours ( you have to drive through that neighborhood to get to ours), I thought having him there would curb some of the drug activity, I was wrong. It was obvious pretty early on he was dirty.

Ah, I didn't know you were superstitious. I don't believe in the myth of the clean cop.

I thought he would not shit where he ate and keep his neighborhood clean.

Less than agreeable or upright and actually involved in organised crime are two very different things.

Protecting capital over the rule of law and human rights, or protecting those who do is literally being involved in organized crime.

Actually, being a cop is legal.

Cops always defend their bad apples, thus the whole bunch is spoiled.

For context, I'm Canadian and am regularly downright proud of our courts. Our cops on the other hand, no. Just no. Routinely in the papers for egregious criminal activity and abuse of people rights.

In the US, the courts and the cops have long been a shambolic shitshow of gangsterism. Your mileage may vary based on your country.

So? That's still not what organised crime means.

I'll use the US as its a much clearer example. For profit prisons with kickback schemes from judges.. Illegal arrests and fines to generate dollars for podunk towns, Abusing RICO statutes for civil forfeiture to straight up rob people extra judicially. It's straight up racketeering.. Almost everything the LAPD, NYPD, Baltimore PD Ever did. They are notorious.

That looks a whole lot like like practices you don't like, but which are legal.

I think you, like they, are abusing the term legal.

Yeah, but this entire thread is about a cop being involved with literal organised crime, not figurative or metaphorical organised crime.

In another context, maybe we'd be talking about moral and not legal, but what you go to jail for is the distinction here.

Murder and robery are crimes.

In another context they're lawful execution and taxation. Actually, government in general is racketeering with better PR.

Most cops are pretty good about only affiliating with the government, out of possible users of force.

Not american here, cops here are actually a trained job with multiple years of training before going out. 3 years pure training minimum and the slightes missbehaviour can get you fired and suspended from your job which will be marked down

I hope earnestly you don't mean German cops.

Lol no i dont. Augsburg City Club got raided by 500 police just so the state could show their power again

Yeah, I thought your name narrowed it down to DACH and there's a lot of German cop apologists out there, because they're white and only interact with cops during traffic stops.

Oh hell no. Germany is racist af all over

No he/she probably don't. In Germany, the pigs wallow in their own shit and cover each other.

Things are more strict in America, they hold up a mirror to you and if you breathe on it and it fogs up, then you are hired.

Depends on the people, if they are good people then let’s be friends, if not then just ignore them and be cordial. Like with any neighbour.

Depends on the situation. But generally agree with the top comment.

Recently a cop help me with something not so super legal. Was kinda hilarious as neither of us knew about the other until we casually talked about work and he showed his badge. He was really sweet, and just hated his job. Lost soul. Hope he finds a better way. But he's still a cop, so I ultimately wouldn't trust him.

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I'd be more discreet about my moonshine operation, that's for sure.

My neighbor is a transit cop. Idk what his deal is but he hasn't spoken to me in six years so I figure we're cool.

I would go out of my way to avoid them

A bunch of social media accounts with their name and address may start attacking Scientology and right-wing crazies.

My neighbour growing up was a cop. He and his wife were Christian fundies who had like 8 kids.

I literally never had a single bad interaction with them, and by all accounts he was an alright dad to those kids. I still see him when I visit my folks for the holidays, and when I do, I see his kids now all grown up with kids of their own visiting their parents

I did have one down the street at one point. We each minded our own business and I considered it good for my family’s safety to have a police car always parked nearby

Yeah the rabid lion does tend to keep the wolves at bay and they barely eat any children .

I had a cop two door down for years. I loved having that cop car sitting there every night.

Helped my cop neighbor move his gun safe into his house. We mostly keep to ourselves but I'd rather him on my side in a crisis.

Helped my cop neighbor move his gun safe into his house.

You left your fingerprints/DNA on the gun safe... 😱

I watch too many tv to know what's coming, he's a dirty one and he's gonna frame you for something.

Something else

Closest I came was living like 2 houses away from an undercover cop who was helping deal with a drug lab house in the middle if our block. Never saw them much, nor was I opinionated on cops since I was in maybe 3rd grade when this was happening. So nothing too big. The drug house was taken care of and nobody else on the block were harmed, but kinda fucked since it was a block full of kids at the time.

Nowadays, in that situation, I would do my best to avoid the cops and drug house as much as possible and not get onto either of their radars. Not 100% sure I would feel safe, despite the fact that the bus route I take always has me waiting by a cop building while having had zero incidents over the few years I've been taking the route.

Would that be worse than the crackhead who lived there before them?

Yes

Police Station 100m away. I'd encourage a few more to move in. They do serve and protect where I live.