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3mon 16d ago by piefed.social/u/Ek-Hou-Van-Braai in linuxmemes from media.piefed.social
You can run Genshin Impact on Linux
You can, but you shouldn't
Not under my roof
speak for yourself
I recently learned there’s an entire fork of proton entirely for “anime” games (dwproton). They be dedicated
Genshin and ZZZ have been running fine from the official installer in a Proton Prefix for years now. They use a different anticheat from the two Honkai games for some reason.
Does that mean that Honkai games still can't be played on Linux? There goes my idea of giving Star Rail a try.
I know a lot of you don't care if these games run or not, but really does suck they don't. I've talked to quite a few people that wouldn't switch to Linux because X game doesn't run on it.
Yeah this is only a win if you don't play those games. Unfortunately these games are intensely popular and the lack of compatibility stunts the popularity of Linux. I expect there is a similar anti-meme of this list titled "why I'll never install Linux"
Mechwarrior 2 Titanium trilogy, arguably the best games EVER MADE (fight me, wetnose) doesn't really run on anything beyond Windows 2000. I simply refuse to update to any OS that doesn't retain the functionality of my games.
Why not run linux on your main and have a Windows 2000 Virtual Machine?
Because I don't really run Windows 2000 on my main machine. It was sarcasm.
Plus... Running mint on my main, and I've tried a couple of emulators and VMs to try to run MW2 and none of them do a good job of it, especially if you want to use a controller or joystick. Frankly, If I had a real heavy hankering for my vintage games, I'd just build an airgapped legacy system specifically for running that game.
the only times i've had trouble playing a game on linux are when the developer specifically fucks with it so it won't run on linux. the main reason for that is kernel-level anticheat software, which, from what i've heard, doesn't really help with cheating much anyways. my computer is my computer, i don't need microsoft or some game company going into my kernel. can't wait for some drm company to get hacked and have windows gamers up in arms because they got ransomewared.
I think one of the games got hacked via their anticheat and we're able to mess around with other players. I don't remember which one it was though. I don't play any of these games so they all blend together for me
Agreed, I switched my gaming rig to Linux for 6 months and was so excited to get things working. Went back to windows on it because I kept going to play with friends, and would often have to mess with Proton versions (again) to get the game working.
I really enjoy the Grounded games, so when Grounded 2's early access was about to release I switched back to avoid dealing with those issues.
Still rocking Linux on my non-gaming devices though, aside from SteamDeck.
Went back to windows on it because I kept going to play with friends,
Shame.
I really enjoy the Grounded games, so when Grounded 2's early access was about to release I switched back to avoid dealing with those issues.
Shame, shame, shame.
What would you recommend I do so that I wouldn't have ran into those issues? Suck it up and keep dealing with the headaches?
I'm no fan of Windows either, but it lets me play games when I want to play them.
Both Grounded games are listed as Gold on ProtonDB, just FYI
Edit: Oh, I see. No crossplay. Well that sucks.
Yeah, I’m lucky that my main games of interest weren’t blocked from Linux when I switched. If I had a friend group that played BF6, it likely would’ve been a harder decision
People will always come up with a reason to stay with what they have.
And other people will always come up with a reason you need to leave what you have even if it satisfies your need.
Your personal needs are not the concern. Free the software free the society.
Your personal opinions are not my concern.
Your personal needs are not the concern
And with that attitude you've already lost.
They are addicted and hooked to a scam that Harvest their resources
Unpopular opinion: these memes always have ‘I am very smart’ energy on Lemmy. The issue is that these companies should support Linux not that your personal taste in video games means it’s a good thing that they don’t.
I don’t play any of these particular games but I have other software that doesn’t run on Linux without considerable effort. So I haven’t switched. My best friend has switched and made the changes necessary and is forever troubleshooting issues.
No, no, no - this is all wrong. I don't consider you a person unless you self-flagellate at the terminal daily, compiling from source in dependency hell while being cleansed by the vim fires at the altar of Tux.
This species of Linux user reminds me quite a lot of Catholics.
You're shadowboxing with a nonexistent Linux user. People do that kind of stuff as a hobby, not for status. Most people who are into that sort of thing are too asocial to use any social capital they might have anyway.
These people exist, I run into them here and elsewhere. one of them just replied to my comment.
I read that as “self-felate” and was impressed and horrified that people were that flexible while using the terminal.
Lol, is that what you tell yourself every day to justify staying with Windows? Do you convince yourself by imagining Linux users suffering?
I do not use Windows
And I don't use the terminal every day and install apps from the application manager.
If you have chosen a distro that forces you to use the terminal or install apps from source code, that's your choice, not a condition for all Linux users.
You're clearly not who I'm talking about then.
I've used various distros as daily drivers for over 20 years. Debian-based is comfy for me. So is the terminal, but I'll use a gui if it suits the situation. If I need a software package I install it in whatever way works, whether that's building from source and fighting through dependencies, composing a docker image, unpacking a static .deb or clicking 'install' on flat hub. I'm aware of the differences, and issues folks have, and I have my own preferences as well, but I mostly just don't care. It's all free (gratis) software, which I'm glad even exists. If it's truly libre, even better, I'm all about that. Given 2 functionally equivalent packages I'll always pick the most libre one. At the end of the day, I don't feel the need to run an ideologically pristine system. I need it to work.
I clearly touched a nerve, lol, but there's no need to get defensive.
I agree with you that these memes are a little silly, but I also agree with the overall point that it's actually good that these games don't run on Linux. It has nothing to do with my personal taste in these games though, and everything to do with privacy violations via kernel-level anticheats, and getting people addicted via dark patterns like microtransactions, gacha, and FOMO-inducing battlepasses.
I built a computer for my uncle and his kids and installed Linux on it. My cousin wanted to play Fortnite, and I tried to pitch it to him as a feature instead of a bug. But a couple weekends ago, I caved and installed dang Windows 11 for him.
You caved to the megacorps immense pressure on kids to recruit and devulge their friends and peers desires so that the hypercapitalist pedo lords can Harvest them D: with knowledge that this goes on? Based.
I realized that I'm not going to win him over by being a jerk about it. Sometimes, all you can do is give people the space to come to the right conclusion themselves.
I realize it's too late now, but as I've posted before on Lemmy: you can "run" Fortnite on Linux well enough by using a game streaming service like Luna or GeForce Now. It's the only game I run that way on my PC and only because my kids enjoy teaming up with me in BRs.
I mention it because it seems like most people aren't aware it's an option (even on Windows, if you want to avoid rootkits on your system). Not for everyone, but you can technically stick to your principles/security and still play (some of) those kinds of games.
Proceed with sanctimonious bellyaching below:
Oh neat, I hadn't even thought of that! I think it'll be a hard sell to switch him back, but I'll keep this option in mind. I'm just hoping he grows out of it haha.
My brother has been interested in switching to Linux but he's into those kind of games too. I'll recommend him to try it out!
The neat thing is he can try it before switching from windows to see if it's something he's cool with. When I first started using Luna there were random input lag spikes but I haven't had that problem in months. The only real downside is sometimes it seems like my voice/chat settings get reset (I like to turn off voice and text chat because toxicity).
I'll let him know, thanks! I think he usually just uses D*scord with his friends
It's a meme. Old one, too.
Gatekeeping "uhmm actually I only play artisanal games delivered exclusively to a single person" is bad and must be spoken out against. And Lemmy sucks on that front.
It's a meme, I don't think folks are meant to view this as something other than ironic.
My particular taste in video games is that they are not predating on my kernel bitch whatafuck is wrong with you they should not be allowed to do that
Pre dating? Can't go somewhere and have fun? Is that a crime now?
Back in my day™ you could go somewhere, have fun and possibly hook up with someone from that thing years later. The lesbians are still doing it. But noooooo you zoomers ruined everything!
Leave your kernel alone!
I am a 40yo lesbian and English is not my first language
It's a pun.
Uhh.. no.. no it's not.
Predating = predation Pre dating = time frame prior to dating
I don’t play any of these particular games but I have other software that doesn’t run on Linux without considerable effort.
Anything that isn't a game can typically be run on a virtual machine.
So, the software that runs the features on my mouse and headset run on a VM. Then I play the games in the base OS with those features like software driven surround sound?
This is actually similar to the situation I came across with my friend. “Everything works 100% it’s crazy!” Sweet! How’d you get the customisable mouse buttons working? (He has the same mouse as me) “There are extra mouse buttons? Oh, there are! I never noticed. No, they don’t work anymore”. 😑
So it's not software that doesn't work but hardware that's weird then? Sure, makes sense.
Next time you buy hardware look it up. Once you're on stuff that'll work in Linux you should be able to jump over easily then.
So it's not software that doesn't work but hardware that's weird then? Sure, makes sense.
It’s a gaming mouse (I’m guessing you’re unfamiliar) with customisable buttons. The buttons work best with the software and the software doesn’t work natively on Linux, as previously mentioned.
I wish Linux was seamlessly transitionable but you seem to be saying that I should change to suit Linux. The “you’re holding it wrong” of open source software.
The “you’re holding it wrong” of open source software.
Eh, not really dude. Linux cannot possibly account for each and every unique hardware combination that is put to market -- some of which are being invented as I type this sentence.
Some hardware is written with firmware that falls outside of standards and specs and some hardware producers are actively hostile to people providing support for their hardware on alternative platforms. Computer hardware and peripherals are a huge market with lots of players. I'm saying if Linux support is important to you, then make it part of your evaluation criteria when you buy new hardware. Or don't if it isn't.
Linux doesn't have significant enough consumer market share to pressure hardware manufacturers into providing support for them, and it also is a free operating system -- not one helmed by a massive multi-national corporation that can use billions of dollars to pressure hardware manufacturers into following their whims.
Of course they work just disassemble the Windows exe and find the addresses and break free from bloat
Idc for any of these games. So yeah, Linux wins.
Is this the kernel-level spyware list?
Primarily, there are a few EAC games that haven't checked the 'Linux allowed' box yet.
linux got just a little worse pretty recently: roblox is now playable on it
sober is the project name that ports it to Linux
This is how i find out that they broke Apex on linux. Used to run just fine.
I stopped playing completely when they broke anti-cheat on Linux. I was already waning on the game and that sealed the deal for me.
Yea they removed Linux support in 2022 or 2023 I think? I used to play a lot with my friends but I’m not installing windows just for that game so they lost me
Anti-Cheat topic I believe
Um, acktchuailley Linux can run Genshin through An Anime Launcher.
I imagine Linux can run most of those. Odds are the OP just didn't try hard enough.
What is completely understandable.
No, all of them have Anticheat. Some may work up to and including the main screen or a few seconds of gameplay, but not further.
Anti cheat doesn't mean something doesn't work with Linux.
Some anti cheat either didn’t work well with Linux or is specifically intended to be incompatible with Linux.
Kernel Level Anticheat does. Which is obviously what I am talking about, in the context of AAA shooters.
I've experienced myself that GTA:O, Fortnite and Apex don't work. LoL is famous for not working, same with R6. They're all shooter games after all.
Now:
Fortnite works - with a custom server. The point of even playing something like Fortnite is the large playerbase to fill games with dozens of players, and using custom servers basically nulls that, but it's technically an option...
Genshin works (although you might just get banned)
R6 just doesn't work.
Destiny 2 neither.
Same with Apex.
GTA:O doesn't work with public sessions since Enhanced. It does work with workarounds for all players and therefore an invite-only session. So it's not really the original GTA Online anymore, but tbh nobody cares abt that, everyone just chills in private lobbies and/or plays RP.
LOL also just doesn't work.
Rocket League works perfectly fine with BattlEye and is expected to work perfectly fine when it switches to Easy Anti-Cheat on Linux. The issue isn't the anti-cheat. Its the developers' implementations.
I've played Genshin Impact just fine on my Steam Deck using An Anime Launcher.
No, it can't.
The virgin BF6 ❌
The chad Insurgency Sandstorm ✅
Runs Genshin impact: ✅
Runs the launcher: ❌
It works pretty well on proton. It's just the launcher that doesn't. So you need to update using a VM or windows, then run the exe instead.
It's been a while though, and I haven't tried playing it since before the volcano update. I think star rail is the same, but Honkai Impact 3rd doesn't work, even in VMs
Runs BF6: ❌
That trash even requires you to enable secure boot. Get the fuck outta here with those ridonkulous requirements 😂
Had set up dualboot for bf6, then after playing a bit on release i realised the game isnt as good as bf3/bf4 and returned it. Havent booted into win11 since.
Well, good that my ol pal rimworld works like a charm
I've got a decent rig and rimworld chokes at a reasonable farmyard size. What's your secret?
how many hundred mods you have
That's a trick question, the correct answer is "not many enough"
I will have you know I recently trimmed down to 200 thank you.
I have zero mods. I ran a Ryzen 5 5600x RTX3070 with 16gb ram and I eventually got like 150 ducks or something and every few seconds the computer started to pause and think. It was eventually unbearable. I googled it and thought it was my overall number of beings in the area. So I started wholesale duck slaughter and I think it got better. I have a better computer now haven't gone back yet. Are you telling me it's not my PC?
One of the recent updates improved the performance of large barnyards, IIRC. I've had little trouble running it on an i5 1340p with probably a hundred or so ducks.
When I was using fedora I was using faugus launcher, now I'm driving arch and lutris works like a charm, u need to try to tinker a bit. Try using wine-ge or proton experimental. Maybe there are missing vulkan liberies. Whats your GPU? And can u somehow dm me? Im new lemmy user so I'm not very familiar yet with any features
My mostly-vanilla (ie mods don't hugely change gameplay/add anything crazy) Rimworld runs fine on my probably what's considered mid-range PC. I second the other commenter; you probably need to cut back on the mods.
and it runs mafia the old country, which doesn't have multi player crap or microtransactions, so yeah, absolute win
You can use https://launcher.moe/'s software for Hoyo games btw. The top one is the one for Genshin Impact.
Though last I installed Genshin on Linux I remember there being a slight chance of getting banned because you had to disable the anticheat to run it on Linux, but I never had it happen to me and I'm not sure if that's still valid.
Steam runs them just fine with Proton Experimental as well
Absolutely. I Installed the HoyoPlay launcher through Heroic and ZZZ runs flawlessly on my Steam Deck.
Last I played the game was single player... fuck these companies man
The game still is mostly single player. But, as most gacha games, Genshin Impact is online-only, mostly so that you couldn't cheat in any resources you want without paying them a hefty price.
It was like that from the very beginning.
I didn't get very far thought it was dumb... so i guess thats why lol
My experience with Genshin Impact: -Tried it (Only the starter region, Mondstadt), thought it was healthily dynamic, but ultimately very childish -Left it for about 2 years -Then my gf has shown me what goes beyond and I had to accept the game has merits
The storytelling beyond Mondstadt gets a more serious turn, presents interesting and divisive dilemmas and unexpected plot twists - so much so that I wouldn't recommend it to children, actually. The battle mechanics also change and deepen as you unlock new characters and visit new regions.
Still, gacha mechanics heavily ruin the game for me. I'm here for the story, not the endless casino. Wish I would get my own private server up and running at some point in the future to remove these mechanics and just play to my heart's content.
The game's anticheat is very tame generally. I've seen some friends run all sorts of cheats with no real repercussions, only getting a one week temp ban for editing their damage to the maximum integer limit.
Warframe - Linux: ✅️
Conclusion, Linux wins.
Huh. GTA online used to work fine? Did they update that?
A few months ago they added BattleEye anti-cheat but didn't enable Proton compat
I wonder if the "pirate"/modded servers work on Linux?
Everything I can find tells me Genshin has been running on Linux for three years. Haven't tried it though
It does, the launcher and updates, too.
Quite a few of these games are in geforce now and geforce now has an official linux client now
Yo
GTAO is pretty fun if you carefully dupe money all the time. I come back to it occasionally.
GTAOs anti cheat engine has a Linux option.... Rockstar just hasn't turned it on.
I play that on W10 LTSC.
I miss peak Destiny 2 tho. It was the only reason I dual booted for many years.
Same, I got in just and the end of the good stuff so didn't have that long to really enjoy it. I did love my time playing but there was so much that made it clear it was only gonna get worse. Seeing Bungie fall like that really sucked, they had been my favorite game dev all the way since halo 1, and look at them now...
jokes on you, i only play video games that is made by a atleast "Decent" company,not made in a slopware engine like Unity,unreal?(the engine isnt bad itself its just the company,also includes the middle ware it uses if the middle ware is also usable by free software too,made by a company with good track record or heavily modified),doesnt do kernel level anticheat,moddable in some way.
Is this a mean or are you being real?
why? am being fr
Unreal - the engine - has fallen from grace. Not just due to all the slop produced with it, but because it's horribly overengineered.
Nowadays it's rate to come by with an engine that is purpose built. Now each and every engine must account for most popular game genres at the moment, that could be done with them.
That artifact factory, full of ghosting and stutters is overengineered? I swear Unreal 5 games only looks good when absolutely everything stays still...
That's a developer issue.
It's really easy to not have that issue.
If you liked Unreal, you will like Sauerbraten.
Thank you for letting me to know about it!
i see, and never knew Unreal was horribly overengineered.(maybe due to graphics?)
It's used for 2d/3d animation, modelling, live events, broadcasting, virtual architecture, simulation, gaming, and probably many I'm not even aware of.
It's designed to be modular and is open source (source available with a share-alike license).
One common thing that even Epic comments on is how the default UI is meant to show you how it works but many games don't even change it.
If you're making a game then you should turn off all the modules you aren't using so it doesn't ship with your game.
If you're loading data in then you should load it on a separate thread but many use the game thread and it results in people with low IQ thinking it's the engine's fault.
i never said the engine was bad,but the only problem is the company (Epic Games).
I thought I was explaining it.
ohh i see, i thought you where explaining the good stuff about the engine because i said something bad about it.
Wouldn't be that bad, but it's a multiple decades old engine. In fact, it's first version even had software rendering for PCs without 3D accelerators.
Ah man Xbox got SO close though.
Oh well, soon it won’t run at all…
You mean to tell me that Genshin Impact is more than just a hentai franchise...?
And let me guess, next you'll say the same thing about Overwatch.
Apex runs on Linux. We used to play it, but then they blocked it actively because there were too many cheaters on the platform. I'm sure the cheater problem has been subsided now that it's blocked /s
If they "allow it", you can just play it again.
That’s the same with all of them. There’s only anti cheat that disallows it
Because Linux does not allow their rootkit "anticheat"
What excuse do you think the others have?
I haven't played the others so I don't know.
They all pretend a kernel level service is the only way to stop cheatrrs. That anti cheat just "happens" to be the same tech that also remote access your entire system (hint: it's not the best way to combat cheating at all) and stream your data night and day to sell to the highest bidder..
Uh almost all of these run great on Linux proton, the one exception being GTA online because of the anti cheat.
No even then GTAO can run... If rockstar just enables the Linux anticheat on the engine they are using...
I play Genshin Impact on Linix just fine :)
Hell yeah. Solid Dub.
Genshin works normally, no special trickery needed AFAIK - my sister plays it on Linux all the time.
A meme? Lying? I can't believe it,
3/3/26 never forget
Dual boot Bazzite with Windows Ent IoT? Profit?
I have faith in the general independent Linux developer landscape that eventually most all games will become compatible, whether AAA Devs want them to be or not.
They always want that. How can you guess that any aaa megacorp demonic multinational greedmachine entity will ever choose to make less money? It's not about that. It's about the control they give up of they don't assume 100% control of your computer and all traffic always on it.
I can overlook all of this.
R6S doesnt work in windows either (if virtualized).
Since when did GTAO stopped working on linux tho? Did it introduce an anticheat as well?
At least for the remastered edition, I can get a private lobby with just me in it to work, but otherwise batleye errors kick if in a public game.
I still can't believe league of legends won out. I thought Heroes of Newerth was more fun back in the day.
What's wrong with Rainbow Six Siege? Theres a kot of annoying players, but I find the game okey-ish.
Last time I played it, the game felt like Rainbow Six x Call of Duty. It is a shell of what it started out as.
Sometimes I wish I could play classic MapleStory. That's about it.
What about Source Engine games?
Source 2 S&Box...
I just wish that Vortex or some other mod manager worked on Linux. The amount of black magic I have to do to get mods running is kinda absurd.
Wait, Vortex doesn't work on Linux? Seriously!? God fucking damnit, I'm going to be stuck with Windows forever.
I can't go back to the old days of manually installing and updating mods by hand. Those were some rough times, and I never want to relive them again.
It kinda does if you use steam tinker, problem is your mileage will vary. Works fine for New Vegas, Baldurs Gate 3 is FUBAR due to how it handles mods (can't figure out how to change it), and so far Skyrim is being a bit of a bitch but I've had problems with this specific mod collection on windows so I'm not calling fault just yet.
I swear I saw they were going to start working on one
They did then abandoned it for some fucken reason because Nexus will just do that. Hell at this point I'd settle for a Linux fork of the old NMM with collection support since most of the issues with modding Linux is just lack of mod managers.
They abandoned the standalone linux mod manager with the intention of making Vortex itself run on Linux, specifically targeting SteamOS.
Good to hear. Having native support would ease a lot of issues.
The conclusion is correct but you need to show your work a little more.
I can't get Excire Foto or Insta360 Windows app to run on Fedora. So this win is pretty offset by losses.
I can't get any Unity games to run in Steam.
Epic win.
This is honestly a skill issue though
Battlefield 6 is why I have a windows machine right now
The advantages of Linux are worth such sacrifices.
Linux saved me from Destiny 2, basically saved my future. This is a true story.
The source code for rainbow 6 is probably in the wild now from the christmas mongo hack. It may be fixable. Maybe, it's development was fraught, that code might be a nightmare.
Does this imply playstation is better than windows pc?
Runs SF6 very good still haven't tried GGS but I'm set. I would like to try 2xko but can dich it for Marvel Toukon when is out.
GGS runs fine on mine :3
Linux runs Resident Evil 9. It just doesn't run these because they aren't real games.