Iran security chief warns of alleged plot by 'Epstein network' to blame Tehran for ‘9/11-style’ attack,
3mon 2d ago by lemmy.world/u/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87 in world from www.azernews.az
I do like the idea of calling the current US government the "Epstein Network".
I call them the Epstein Class. It's not just this administration, or even one party, or even just politicians in general. It is the global elite and their unjust system of exploitation called capitalism that has allowed Trump to do what he does with no consequences. As long as the Epstein Class exists, there will be more Epsteins.
capitalism
Think Epstein's network crossed economic ideological boundaries. Noam Chomsky considered Epstein a good friend while simultaneously being a staunch critic of capitalism. There are signs of being connected to the USSR, China, North Korea, .... If Epstein connected with fame or power, it didn't matter what 'system' was in play.
Yeah unfortunately some people who were ostensibly on the side of the working class were also caught up with Epstein. There are evil people on every side. I'm not surprised by connections between Epstein and USSR/China/DKP. Epstein was primarily an asset of Mossad and the CIA, who used him to generate kompromat. Would you not expect that entities that are aligned against the western hegemony of the Epstein Class to try to gain access to the blackmail factory? Or it could also just be that they were all pedophiles, too. I don't know.
None of this changes the fact that the reason no one truly powerful ever faces consequences for things like Epstein or the Panama Papers is that the political-economic system is designed by the ruling class to benefit those few people lucky enough to own capital. Wealth = Power.
Chomsky the Russian apologist?
Chomsky only re-wrote theory available elsewhere. Wouldn't surprise me if he was a plant all along.
That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Tell me one thing he said about politics that wasn't said by somebody else before him.
Not talking about his linguistic work, I'm not a linguist, but his radical ideas about politics? The mossad needed some woke cred.
I like the Iranian ministers, they just casually walk with their people in the middle of a war and have the balls to call these guys out in front of everyone.
We murder ours for not putting out, and our information about other parts of the world is largely curated by a fascist regime. Let's please not forget that
There doesn't have to be a good guy in this story. It is perfectly plausible for this entire mess to be driven solely by villains while the innocents, who have no control over any of it, be its victims.
Yeah I don't get why people are choosing sides when the sides are a Pedo-fascist regime and a theocratic dictatorship. This war is stupid af, but I wouldn't shed a tear if the Iranian regime collapses due to it.
R.I.P. to the innocent Civilians caught in the crossfire.
The best move is to not play.
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You don't have to like Iran to recognize that the only reason this war is happening is because of the US, Iran didn't start the war.
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So you're saying the war helps that?
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Okay, that doesn't change the fact that the war makes it worse for everyone, literally a global effect, and it's the United States and Israels fault.
Iran didn't start the war, and the US and Israel trying to destabilize Iran will not make Iranian lives better.
If Mexico or Canada invaded the US, it wouldn't make the US better, it would make it worse.
You can't take away a countries right to self defense just because their government is bad.
I too give all of my support to the innocents being bombed.
The Iranian Regime is everything but innocent.
The Iranian government should be dismantled and all it's executors put on trial for their crimes against humanity and their citizens.
The same should happen to the current US administration.
The fact you're trying to legitimise the Iranian government in any way is baffling to me.
lmao you still believe the 40000 dead bullshit dont ya?
Did you know they also raped babies on the 7th of october?
Where did I compare Iran and US?
I agree with you about all the points you have raised about the US.
Do you not agree, that a regime that has killed 36 thousand of it's citizens this year alone, should be dismantled?
Edit: You edited your comment right as I was answering. I do not agree with your theory of the US funding/participating in all current genocides. I very much doubt they are involved in the genocide of the Uyghurs.
Edit 2: And your estimates on how many people the US is supposed to have killed lol,
They have videos of you on jeffrey island dont they?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres
So wikipedia is good enough for the massacres the US perpetrated but not enough for the ones from Iran?
Wikipedia only called palestine a genocide until a year in, asshole
Oh boy... Have a good one.
LOL being called an imperial pig for pointing out that the Iranian theocratic Dictatorship aren't good guys is wild. You tankies are real special...
Repeating the same shit doesn't make it more true. Where did I compare them? Quote me
You're more of a fascist than I am if you think a regime that suppresses the rights of women is good.
Nope still doesn't make it true. You know it's all in your head, right?
I never compared the US and Iran.
I never said Iran has done worse than what the US has done.
I never said I think this war is justified. (It isn't)
I have not argued for any of these things, yet you hallucinated these arguments in your head.
I simply said that the Iranian Regime are not good guys and for some reason this triggers you, which is why I guessed that you think they are good. But if you truly don't:
Do you agree that the current Iranian regime is a bad government that should eventually be put to trial for what it has done to it's own people?
And please show me in my replies text where I compared the US and Iran. I made two separate statements.
It's like with gaza vs israel. Palestinians are very bad and deserved it, according to the israeli.
How naive can you be
That is pretty much true throughout all of history. You almost never have "good guys"; it's usually "bad guys" versus "worse guys."
It's usually "worse guys" saying "NO WE'RE NOT THAT BAD THE OTHER GUY IS EVEN WORSE THEY RAPED BABIES ON THE 7TH OF OCTOBER/KILLD!!!! THEY DESERVED IT"
I kinda default to "underdog=good guy" in these situations. The people with trillions of dollars reaching across the globe to grub for more are typically in the wrong.
Yeah, let's also not forget a US regime change is why Iran has the government it does. We didn't like it when their more secular government took control of their oil.
And we murder transwomen for using a public restroom.
Let's please not forget that.
According to the US and Israel, Iran is very bad.
Why not replace “Deep State” with “Epstein State”?
I like to call them the washington regime, but I accept this as well.
Tbh pushing this narrative far and wide is going to do a LOT to defang the impact of any sort of false flag bullshit the orange regime might attempt.
Didn't the FBI already say shit about bombing California?
Given every accusation is a confession with the GoP I immediately figured they were going to do it themselves and blame Iran. And that California was chosen to try to scare it into line, much like other blue states have been targeted by the current administration.
Wait, they did? You got a source?
Edit: ok yeah I remember this. I thought it smelled to high heaven initially. Fact check report https://archive.is/2026.03.13-151616/https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fbi-california-iran-drone-strikes/
That particular archive site is shit. I can do the captcha 10 times and it won't load the site. Additionally, I believe their captcha page is used to ddos Wikipedia.
not to put an extra tin foil on my tin foil hat.
but now, given the US government, even if Iran did perpetrate a 9/11 style attack. I will assume it was a false flag attack by the US.
It’s not tin foil hatty.
Kash fucking Patel was told to gut the team at the FBI responsible for identifying and tracking threats originating from Iran right before we started shooting things at them. That’s as close to a false-flag setup as you can get without actually just doing it yourself.
that's why I have no doubt that any attack in the US will be done by the US.
my point being, that by being that sloppy and untrustworthy, even is Iran did commit an attack, everyone will believe it was the US. not saying they will. just that the US government is fucked either way
Honestly that might be something that could actually incite real rebellion by state governments and another civil war - the federal government carrying out a false flag so ham-handedly that it’s brutally fucking obvious that it’s a false flag.
unless it's near the midterms, and they will be cancelled for some "national security"/ "emergency crisis" reason or bullshit.
Which, again, could incite actual rebellion. That’s never been done. Even during either world war. Even during the Civil War.
We had elections during the War of 1812 as well.
Another excellent point
like he cares. unless the military/police turns on him, he can quell any rebellion and keep the grift going.
tf do you think was the point of militarizing the police, turning ICE into the 4th largest military in America, and building massive concentration camps?
Is there a geographical reason to target California? Because, if anything, I imagine Texas would be the bigger target. California opposes Trump, Texas does not. Why would Iran want to target the enemy of its own enemy?
do you think there are "good"states and"bad states"?
they are all the same, we started a war, and attacked civilian centers, we set the terms of engagement. random Californians are targets thanks to trump
Random Californians were put at risk thanks to Trump, obviously. I wouldn’t dare argue otherwise. My point has more to do with what I imagine the strategy of a state like Iran would be. I think your point stands, if the offensive were coming from China. Do you think Iran believes they’d stand a chance at accomplishing anything via an assault on US soil? If it were to happen at all, which I already believe to be quite unlikely, then I can only really accept it would happen with political precision. Iran would, if they were smart, try not to give Californians a reason to change their position on the war.
do you think there are "good"states and"bad states"?
Yeah, I do. There are states that are gerrymandered to hell, propagandized to hell, and serve the interests of a very small and damaging minority. That minority includes Trump and his enablers. You alternatively have the equally shit alternative states, and yeah… I picked that side.
in WW2, was there a distinction on which parts of Germany were more or less in favour of Hitler? When we carpet bombed Cambodia, did we looked into the regional polls? when we bombed Teheran, do they look at which neighbours and school girls were more or less in favour of the regime? When we endorsed a genocide in Gaza, did we ask to only target certain neighbours based on polls?
This "In hope they spare the blue states" is such an unimaginably entitled statement. Sounds like "But I am one of the good guys!!!"
No, the US has a long imperialist career of wars of aggressions and war crimes. You have personally benefited from them by having low fuel costs, you are not innocent, you might not have consented to this, but you are part of it, your taxes paid for it. If anything the US is the nation that need to be liberated.
If it was wrong when the USA did it to civilians, it would still be wrong when someone else did it to civilians. Even American ones.
If a government's actions can justify massacre of their civilians, why are you complaining about the USA taking justified actions against them? Governments are nearly universally terrible. Practically all targets are justified.
in WW2, was there a distinction on which parts of Germany were more or less in favour of Hitler?
In WW2, the war was explicit and you could be prosecuted for protest in Germany. There’s little reason at all to account for the political climate aside from the states official stance.
When we carpet bombed Cambodia, did we looked into the regional polls? when we bombed Teheran, do they look at which neighbours and school girls were more or less in favour of the regime? When we endorsed a genocide in Gaza, did we ask to only target certain neighbours based on polls?
We as a militaristic superpower similarly have zero need for as much. We impose by domination, which I’m literally arguing Iran can’t do.
This "In hope they spare the blue states" is such an unimaginably entitled statement. Sounds like "But I am one of the good guys!!!"
I hear you, it sounds wishful and entitled. Yet, my point has nothing to do with how I perceive myself and whether that’s any “good” or not. My point was that Iran would most likely want to consider how best to approach such an attack. I can’t help but feel it would behoove them to not unite the US by making war with Iran something Texas and California agree on.
Iran has already made public statements to include the likes of “we are not at war with the American people.” I interpret that to mean they understand Trump (et al) as the enemy, not the American people. Therefore, I again state with conviction, I can not see a single scenario where the political climate of a state is not considered prior to any attack. This is political and if they were going to attack at all — it’ll be somewhere alined with their enemy (who they themselves said was not the American people). Sorry to say, but that’s not California. My point was merely that Texas would make more sense than California… not that any of this makes much sense in the first place.
No, the US has a long imperialist career of wars of aggressions and war crimes. You have personally benefited from them by having low fuel costs, you are not innocent, you might not have consented to this, but you are part of it, your taxes paid for it. If anything the US is the nation that need to be liberated.
Is this a different subject? I don’t really understand why this was the closing argument.
I doubt Iran will conduct an attack on US soil, only hopes to end this is for Trump to lose the midterms, which he will cheat. Any Iranian attack before the midterms will galvanize the nation, or give Trump more political capital to mess the election due to a crisis. Any attack will likely be an American false flag.
my finishing statement is that no American is innocent. even the blue liberals. Both parties had a long history of war crimes and atrocities. so a Democrat state isn't 'one of the good ones'. It is something we need to fix, it is unbelievable that almost every US president has war crimes listed on their wiki, regardless of party lines. If you want to fix it make sure you vote in the primaries to ensure a progressive who doesn't accept lobbying money (especially AIPAC/Military industrial complex) wins.
I doubt Iran will conduct an attack on US soil, only hopes to end this is for Trump to lose the midterms, which he will cheat. Any Iranian attack before the midterms will galvanize the nation, or give Trump more political capital to mess the election due to a crisis. Any attack will likely be an American false flag.
I totally agree. It’s why I feel like the claim it would be California (of all places) is just icing on the cake. It’s silly to believe Iran is planning such a thing.
my finishing statement is that no American is innocent. even the blue liberals. Both parties had a long history of war crimes and atrocities. so a Democrat state isn't 'one of the good ones'. It is something we need to fix, it is unbelievable that almost every US president has war crimes listed on their wiki, regardless of party lines. If you want to fix it make sure you vote in the primaries to ensure a progressive who doesn't accept lobbying money (especially AIPAC/Military industrial complex) wins.
Also agree.
That just means they’ll have to make it so big that it literally shocks the U.S. into believing they’re dealing with an existential threat.
You know all that uranium you keep hearing about on the news…
We are facing an existential threat, that threat is Trump.
Trump is a symptom, not the disease.
This is such an annoying reply that I see everywhere. Yes, you need to treat a disease, but sometimes a single symptom can be the most threatening part of a disease.
If I'm having a heart attack, I don't need a diatribe about diet and exercise to fix the disease, I need CPR to fix the symptom.
He may just be a symptom of a greater problem, but he's a pretty big fucking problem by himself.
Well said. I don't get the impulse for people to be like "there is no solution here. Trump gone won't change anything" which is just stupid. Yes there is a huge systemic problem.. but your metaphor here works well to explain why the take of the other person is not helpful.
All of it is helpful. This is just public discourse, and it’s important that we don’t become one dimensional in our understandings. Nobody here is going to make an argument so precise and well done that it’ll motivate any one of us to go to the local gun store and start target practice. Helpful in this context is being wise, flexible, understanding, … don’t let yourself become distracted, predictable, or blind.
I agree with you for the most part, but if your words are easily taken as "it's hopeless" that is not good.
Yeah, well, you don’t take care of yourself after a heart attack, eventually you’re gonna die from one. We’ve had several heart attacks.
I don't know, he's pretty diseasey
Pot que no los dos?
And yet he is the worst president in history. Are we to give up because the corrupt system and idiotic public, both of which give him power, exists?
what's the difference? the orange pedophile couldn't care less about public opinion and it's clear by now Americans will not mount an opposition of any significance at this point
Probably to change Europes minds on joining the war.
I give Europeans more credit than that...
Right but not this administration to try it and think it'll work.
Normally I would dismiss this as stupid propaganda. Now I am considering it to be an incredulous reality. 😒
Who would stop the CIA from dressing 3 brown operatives in turbans, blowing up a building, and then blaming Iran?
Don't be silly, they'll put one in a dress and try to claim they're trans
We need to keep our children safe from those Transiranians
I hear the Transylvanians are worse!
This is so well played!
Now Iran can attempt an attack almost openly on the US soil and many will believe it was an inside job. Well, that's what happens when you have 0 credibility at home due to your compulsive need to say BS all the time.
Nah, we’ll still be able to tell. Effective, strategic, hits people of all walks of life? Iran. Bungled, half-assed, and happens in a blue city, in a community of color, at a gay bar… you know.
So Iran just has to do it all bungled and half-assed and we'll never suspect it was them!
What dimension of chess are we now playing? 6D? 7D? Shit’s going to start blowing up and 1/3 of the people will be claiming it, 1/3 blaming it, and 1/3 lying about it, when in fact it was a laptop battery that overheated.
You mean like that “potential drone strike attempt” in California that the FBI said Iran might try to do? Despite it being unlikely that Iran has drones capable of striking California?
Haha, yeah. I saw that too and pondered at the veracity of that claim. If Iran has drones that can fly across the Indian and Pacific Oceans and still hit a target, damn, that’s a helluva technological leap.
yeah if iran can get a drone to california i'm more impressed with their drone than their payload
A head's up, totally feasible. A drone strike can be launched from a boat, a box truck, a garage, anywhere you can have an operator to control it.
I'm not saying that this particular threat was a real problem, but personally I do not understand how the US has not been hit yet. Why is Iran not even bothering?
Because historically, the only two times the USA was actually attacked on USA soil, we retaliated with an unreasonable amount of force. Sure we didn’t nuke anyone after 9/11, but we did after Pearl Harbor and Trump is absolutely demented and egotistical enough to actually try to nuke a country that directly attacks the USA. Plus, attacking Iran is pretty unpopular in the USA because people can tell that we are doing this at the behest of Israel, and they don’t want American soldiers to die fighting Israel’s war (obviously some Americans are fine with this tho bc zionists are loyal to Israel above all else). If Iran attacks the USA directly then suddenly attacking Iran will be wildly popular in the USA, which will mean an even longer and more brutal conflict is guaranteed
If Iran attacks us, how can we even be mad? If we want to stop it, we need to change at home. It's our fault.
I agree that it totally makes sense if Iran attacks the USA. It’s not good (war never is), but it makes sense. However, most Americans don’t think like this. They’ll suddenly feel an ounce of the fear that we’ve made other people across the world feel and instead of reflecting on why this happened and that it’s the consequences of the USA’s actions, they’ll get angry and go full scorched earth. Just like people did with 9/11. People still use that as “justification” for terrorizing the entire Middle East
We have sonar so good we can find a dead billionaire at the bottom of the sea. Ain't no way they get a boat with a drone in range without us letting it happen.
Because they're not terrorists.
Even they admit they are terrorists. Constantly
You're terrorized the genocide could stop don't ya
They don't have to launch direct attacks, as already there are sympathizers who could come out of nowhere.
Cletus at home in Arkansas doesn't care about justice, he just wants freedom fries and lifted trucks
The chumps that voted for this weren't smart enough to spot evil in 2024, and they aren't now either
Boy who cried wolf lookin ahh
Only that the Trumpets do have pretty plausible deniability if there is no clear and blatant evidence it's a false flag, as nobody would believe the dumbasses in the US Admin were competent enough to pull off a successful false flag.
I'm already convinced that the guys removed from the flights were false flags. So they had bombs and then got arrested without detonating? My ass...
lmao you still think brown people are the terrorists?
I swear some people are unredeemable.
I swear some people are unredeemable.
This is an ironic statement.
Said the racist
Yeah, you got me.
I'm racist against idiot.
That's not a race.
You however think brown people want to blow themselves up in the middle of crowds. Gullible idiot.
That’s not a race.
It's your race if you think that is meant to be read literally.
You however think brown people want to blow themselves up in the middle of crowds. Gullible idiot.
Quote anything that I've ever said that even implies that.
The US is bombing Iran, and so expecting Iran to attack US targets is not racist, it is an accurate description of the world where Iran is attacking US targets.
Now Iran can attempt an attack almost openly on the US soil and many will believe it was an inside job. Well, that’s what happens when you have 0 credibility at home due to your compulsive need to say BS all the time.
what makes you think iran want to blow up civilians? you guys do that. Quit projecting yourself as the victim
Nothing makes me think that, it isn't something that I've ever said or implied.
Quit attacking strawmen, are you a bot or otherwise incapable of carrying on a rational conversation?
You got me. I'm a russian troll. I'm currently at the lubjanka shoving caviar in my bhole with Piotr and Casimir
You'll need a lot of caviar to keep up your energy with the amount of jumping to conclusions that you're doing.
I know. That's why I also do crack cocain
That's the most believable thing I've read on social media in the past hour.
Well we already established you were quite guillible, didn't we?
We? You got a frog in your pocket?
A snake, actually. Don't laugh, it's actually a huge handicap. Sometime I sit on it and it hurts like hell.
Yeah, I completely understand, at least you don't have to worry about flushing it down the toilet.
Think again. I only use turkish hole
No wonder you grew up to be an Internet troll.
Nobody does false flag attacks like the US. One must just assume that if something like that happens it was fully planned and deployed by the Burger admin, that's always the most probable scenario.
Nah Israel is definitely the king of false flags.
Honestly, they're very refined today compared to the Americans (the empire isn't what it used to be) when it comes to precise, covert operations, you might be right.
Unfortunately there are millions of idiots who will eat it up.
Like the fake assassination attempt on Trump during the 2024 presidential election where he wore a bandaid for 3 weeks then took it off because he was bored of it?
Well it was a real assassination attempt. They really killed that firefighter.
False flag and the firefighter was a actor.
I find this claim I just read in a headline more credible than any of the claims released by the Epstein network because I feel like that's pretty fucking obvious they're either trying to provoke an attack or make a false flag look more believable.
Just a friendly reminder that this happened a few weeks ago:
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... The world has gone very wrong when this doesn't even sound so unbelievable. I only see one issue:
So far the US seems to have given up trying to make pretext for anything. Trump can do anything he wants and be worshipped for it.
He still has to manufacture consent, and blaming the brown people for random bombings is the classic way. It's not just unbelievable, it will happen.
He'd do it if he wants to restart the draft for troops on the ground.
That being said, I don't think it would acrually work that well and could easily backfire within the US. At the very least he would need heavy congressional support.
It wouldn't work well. I'm old as fuck but most Americans are flat out not doing it. This is not Vietnam.
The Epstein Network
Bbc is now reporting that Iran says this person is dead https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx2lr40g17kt
Trump started a war to protect himself and his epstein buddies. Nothing is off the table. Human life is cheap for these unfeeling creeps.
Well, how else is the pedo felon going to justify imposing martial law to avoid the bloodbath midterms?
I can't wait for this administration to bungle even this
I honestly think this is part of the plan.
If there's a 9/11 style event before 2028, it will open the door for Donald to became a true dictator, and even better, the American people will line up behind him and support it. (As evidenced by Dubya getting reelected after all the dictator shit he did post-9/11.)
It'll have to be soon. He's sundowning hard lately, and it won't be much longer before he won't even be able to get through a speech even with a teleprompter.
You're not wrong. That's almost certainly, in part, a driving factor behind the urgency of starting these wars now.
Wow! In my feed 17min ago it was announced the security chief was killed by an Israeli airstrike. Lemmy moves fast!
CIA searching eBay for a copy of "Sims 3" right now.
Yeah, we all assumed that when the military drones went missing.
It'll be an oil refinery if they're smart and the power grid if they aren't. Telegraph everything
You’re talking about America, the biggest terrorist/genocide state on earth. I don’t think they give a crap which flimsy excuse they need to use to cause terror on nations across the planet. They love war and terror, all to a degree
You’re talking about America, the biggest terrorist/genocide state on earth.
Second biggest, israel takes the top place.
You fucking wish, Thats like saying a toddler is more dangerous than his dad. That’s another thing you colonist love, to pass the blame and point the finger at others to make yourselves look less guilty.
you colonist
Wrong target, try harder.
Breaking news. The exact thing you expected to happen will happen.
Well, if you're gonna get blamed anyway, might as well do it ...
I don't like Trump or the war either but this is literally just propaganda. I trust Iran as much as I trust Trump. Not at all. Foreign authoritarians are not somehow more trustworthy than domestic ones. The phrase "the Epstein Network" is just an attempt to anchor this into domestic political controversies.
Bluntly Trump doesn't care about public opinion about this war enough to do this or the lead in to this war would have looked much more like Iraq
But he does care about rigging elections and would love a reason to attempt to suspend elections.
At least Iran is not in the Epstein Files.
not saying i agree with Iran/America, but any one else notices that Iran and lemmy/reddit users have a lot of common talking points and interests?
Have you noticed how almost everybody agrees that the sun rises to the east? Curious.
Did you change your username or did you have to make a new account lol?
Too lazy to check, but I swear I saw your alt user with the same name in english just a few days ago
What interests are you getting at?
Anti-establishmnt, they started in late 2023 when biden was still in power, but they still are even under trump.
Hi, have you seen our establishment recently?
Making an arbitrary and artificial connection with another country is more of an insight into you then it is a useful observation.
It’s like saying coal miners from West Virginia sound weirdly like coal miners from Turkmenistan - they both have black lung so it would be weird if they didn’t.
that' the thing, they have been doing this before trump, (under biden as well)
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