You'll never guess who's been put in charge in deciding who gets called a terrorist.

But last president atleast were attacked or provoked by recognized threat

Not to defend Trump but that's not true. US has been starting illegal wars of aggression for it's entire existence.

The Iraq war was "justified" largely for the same reason the Iran war is being.

Because the only difference between a terrorist group and an army is the size of their budget.

Donestic Terrorist.

Unclear if typo, or the new correct spelling for that term.

SCOTUS got hijacked

Why dosent social media, traditional media, reddit, lemmy, democrats, ANYBODY ever call this gu ya terrorist.

We actually do all the time. He's the president of the most powerful and wealthy nation on earth. Most presidents cannot contradict him even though they all think he is an idiot.

He is, but the 1% like him because he helps them make money. My question is, how do we push this message to people on Facebook without giving Zuck more money?

He is a global terrorist, the worst we currently have, but since he's the head of the nation that still thinks there a super power, all we can do is wait for that entire fucking nation to finally crumble or that Cheeto to have an aneurysm, after which that ex-empire will sink like a cake that imploded in the oven

you would be surprised about how little the average person cares about whether the president is a huge asshole. half the population is fed fox news, which means they'll get whatever narrative is handy to the rich. the other half is having a mental meltdown on social media which honestly doesn't help anyone. then there's the whole thing that i feel like america is just a fundamentally broken and sick society with like 50 problems (each of which feels like it should be lethal) and trump is yet another one of those.

He is, but everybody's too scared to start shit because he has no concept of de-escalation, only escalation.

I mean, is he not? The rest of the world is just scared he'll nuke something if they push back in any real way.

People do call him out on reddit, lemmy, and other social media. As for bigger names, it's not just a matter of what's true, but what the practical consequences would be.

Because Trump is so petty and vindictive, people tend to not want to say things that will tick him off. Foreign leaders might be of the mindset of "weathering the storm" in the hopes he's replaced by someone better, while domestic media outlets risk being cut out of press briefings if they say anything critical of him.

As for the Democrats, they have all kinds of screwed up priorities. They're constantly trying to appeal to the "center" and be accommodating to a fault. The right has criticized them for "promoting violence" when they do call someone a fascist or similar. They're all about bipartisanship and you can't really do that while calling the other side terrorists, regardless of the actual truth.

I mean, people do, although terrorist isn't a super accurate label for him. Terrorist implies using violence to create terror for a political gain. Trump generally is more acting out of sheer stupidity and malice rather than for any deeper political agenda. Terms like violent madman, fascist, war criminal, murderer or wannabe dictator are more accurate.

Imagine this scenario: you have a group of friends. You're not equally close with all of them but you all hang out together and do stuff together and you all get along fine in general. You help each other out with tools and food, you lend each other your cars, you attend each other's parties, you defend each other against other people who are not part of your group, you might even date each other or each other's siblings. It's not always sunshine and roses but you're generally able to solve most issues that arise by working together. Any differences in opinion can usually be resolved or worked around.

And then one of you starts acting out. They seem to go through some really tough shit. Maybe something happened in their private life that they're not willing to share. Maybe there's some serious medical stuff going on. They yell at everybody, antagonise everybody, don't return the tools they borrow, don't contribute anything to the biweekly barbecue, and demand that everybody come around every Friday and do work around their house, for free. Because of all the things they did for everybody else in the past or something.

You wouldn't instantly kick them out of the group, would you? You'd try to reason with them, try to find out what changed, try to help with whatever issue they seem to have, maybe you'd try to sit it out and hope they get better on their own. You've been together in this group of friends for a long time and all of you have generally always benefitted from it. Also, you're still using their streaming account and you're only halfway through Last of Stranger Thrones.

It's going to take a while until the people in your friend group, one by one, reach their limit and are ready to tell the person who's making everybody miserable to fuck off. They're not going to do it on their own either, they'll be waiting for everybody else to signal their readiness, because they're afraid of being singled out of the group. You can only hope that by the time everybody is ready, your houses and cars and families are still intact.

It's infinitely more complicated on an international scale.

Things like that don't matter much when you're a dictator.

the one controlling trump is a greater threat but he funds enough propaganda and right wing governments to insulate himself. trump is a mere tool, and by chance the manosphere plays into this as well, you need sexually frustrated right wing men otherwise your power collapses without them.

This is all because he is the president of US and US citizens are dickheads for electing him and actually like his show. They dont care if some girls died or a country goes without food, that is why there is so much gun violence. They love violence and like to sing praisen of capitalism and democracy, even tho it is hurting them more but their pride wont acceot that.

We hold a seat on the security council which is essentially for the duration of the organization. It represents, or at least did, the largest, most influential countries in the world during much of the cold war. Russia's kleptocracy has diminished its strength considerably and Ukraine is bogging them down so badly it's ruin an already fragile economy.

France and the UK have diminished in scope now but the ratification in 1945 gave them the seats.

The USA is losing its softer powers which were usually economic control because we have the insane asylum patients at the wheel who understand geo-politics as well as a five year old quantum physics.

China is probably the only one whose gaining more power as others waver but that's not to say they aren't in some strained shape as well. China is second behind Japan for holding US Debt followed closely by the UK. The next country behind that is Luxembourg at roughly 40% of the UK. If the USA becomes heavily insolvent, which we're heading because of run away austerity, those countries are not going to be in a good position for long.

With all that, they're highly reluctant to consider the USA president a terrorist threat or more correctly a rogue national leader. It'd be a game of chicken where all parties would lose essentially.

He’s not a terrorist, doesnt match the definition. You may notice a lot of comparisons to hitler though. Trump is a better match for a despot

In irony you haven't seen Bush's consequences.

A terrorist is someone who uses violence to change government policy, if you are the government then by definition you can't be a domestic terrorist.

The correct charge is treason, but I imagine getting a conviction for that would be difficult? I'm not familiar with the American legal system. The last time England charged a head of state with treason it was because he started two civil wars.

Doing so might start a dialog with respect to the US two party system he hijacked. The system leaves us vulnerable to demagogues (in addition to limiting common input to governance.)

Why dosent social media, traditional media, reddit, lemmy, democrats, ANYBODY ever call this gu ya terrorist.

At least for the serious journalism, there is a valid reason: He has been elected as president, according to the democratic procedures of his country.

(Had he taken his power for example by military force, they might call him other names)

Don-estic terrorist.

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Because the US/west gets to decide who the terrorist is? I mean the US can invade a country to protect against communism, but Palestinians protecting themselves* (yes, I agree the asterisk is doing some heavy lifting) are terrorists. So on and so forth.

As someone from East, being politically active and living as an expat in a western country, I learnt this fact/double standards the hard way?

He is a global threat. And probably is considered a terrorist by cuba, venezuela, iran and probably a few more.

But what can the world do against a mentally impaired toddler with the biggest nuclear arsenal's keys in his hands and an extremely short fuse?

He is a terrorist, he is a global threat, it's just that the find out phase will happen when he is not a threat anymore.

Lemmy

We do lmao, you're just in the wrong communities.

When did we say he wasn't? Just because his camp isn't speaking the obvious doesn't mean it isn't abundantly true. I'll never understand how human shit piles seem to live forever, while death creeps up on the few remaining decent people in the world. Guy I work with who would literally go out of his way to help ANYONE with ANYTHING. Even helped me swap my car's alternator in the work parking lot one afternoon (we work in IT). Lived with cancer for 9 years, died last month at 59. Meanwhile, the Pedo Party 70+ crowd dismantles the world, laughing all the way to the bank, raping kids.

Well, usually it's the USA who points fingers and call others terrorists. They have exceptions, though, notably Israel. What I'm saying is that's their move, other countries do it scarcely, mostly when it's true.

the issue is he has control of the world super power. sure he is destroying it but its nuclear arsenal and military will be top for years and it runs a whole ton of global financial things that again take years to replace. Add to that factions in other countries who want whats currently going on in the us to be going on where they live to. Its crazy how popular facism was and many of us did not even realize it.

Yes I know the cliche saying of “every president is war criminal” blah blah blah. But last president atleast were attacked or provoked by recognized threat.

And there you are. What you're now doing for Obama, Bush and Biden the establishment is willing to do for Trump. Either they're all terrorists or none are. For the record I believe "terrorist" as a label does more harm than good; I prefer terms like "fascist," "imperialist" and "war criminal," but also half the things you just listed have nothing to do with terrorism and the other half has clear equivalents for past presidents.

No other president has caused this much global terror in the modern era.

Uh... ever heard of the War on Terror?

Now to answer your question, the reason Trump is (mostly, some people are doing so) not being called a terrorist is that "terrorist" is actually a pretty mild label in the grand scheme of things; other labels (again, like "fascist," "imperialist" and "war criminal") better reflect the sheer depth and breadth of the depravity. Also some definitions of terrorism explicitly restrict it to non-state actors.