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Why do you prefer the Fediverse over other Social Media?

27d 13h ago by solent.social/users/amey71v5lte5000l in asklemmy

Why do you prefer the Fediverse over other Social Media?

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It's smaller and friendlier, no ads, no big tech, non-commercial, open source and I can host my own instance on a potato that connects me to people all around the globe.

Its nice when you go on Fedi websites and see ublock origin with 0 blocked elements.

What do you think you need more of on the Fediverse? As it's great as a smaller friendlier system but do you miss anything or want something more on here?

A couple of things come to mind:

  • More public institutions need to be on Mastodon or similar microblogging services, so they can publish public service announcements openly via Fediverse and RSS for everyone to read
  • More video creators and public broadcasters need to publish their videos or mirror their channels to PeerTube/Loops etc.
  • More donations or funding in general for fediverse developers and instance admins
  • More enthusiasts who post about their niche interests in niche communities on Lemmy/PieFed/Mbin

Public Institutions would be really cool it's one of things I'm trying to wrap around my head with running a local based instance. I want to bring into the fold some of the local councils, universities and small businesses while making sure people are the center of it. But yes Service updates should be coming to the Fediverse.

Content creation is a strange one as a lot of people often do it for money or at least don't want to loose a lot of money running there own PeerTube instance, while Loops is currently a little easier to get into it does beg to question how do we make sure people are spread across different instances instead of just loops.video along with how do we make already established creators feel like it's worth while to come to this platform over YouTube because a lot of motivation over there is financial.

Donations and Funding in general is certainly something that needs to be pushed more / shown off more. I know for my instance I want to take into account I can create physical products and ship them to people such as my custom stickers & fediverse stickers to help fund this instance. Often asking just for a donation is kinda strange for some people and they'd much rather move to somewhere that's bigger or other people donate so they don't have to. This world sucks especially if you can't / won't donate.

Posting more content onto Niche parts of the Fediverse is something I'm trying to do with some of my interests, the sad thing is a lot of people don't want to be the first or only person pushing things in a community, you somewhat need to interact and push for the type of content you want at the moment but it will all come together eventually.

I am looking to spread the word of the Fediverse through stickers, do you have designs for sale?

You should see it run on Potato 2.0 - the response time is insane!

Because even if I have to read stupid opinions here, they are written by humans and not artificially inflated ads or bots

Love a hot take.

There's no incentive to enshittify. Donations from myself and others cover at least the ongoing cost if not the labor. There is nothing here trying to compete for my attention and keep me here as long as it can. No bugging me with notifications that I'm missing out on conversations or posts. I just use it here and there and if I need a few days because I'm not in the right headspace to socialize I just take it without it trying to guilt me or FOMO me into coming back.

It feels like back in the early days of the internet. You can run out of new content: go do something else for a bit. I feel like people are kinder and more polite here, though it could be my aggressive blocking of people I don't enjoy interacting with combined with my own increased effort to extend people grace.

cause it's running at some dudes house and shit like that is fuckin 🅰️wesome

🅱️ased

The ads are much better here

Centralised social media corrupts, but I do have a craving for social media in this form.

Do you think a decentralized social media itches that itch enough while giving you a better system to use?

Yes, but not a single platform. When I was on reddit, reddit was pretty much all I needed. Lemmy only delivers so subset of all things I want to keep myself informed on. So the people on Lemmy have pointed me in other directions as well. Like Mastodon and Ycombinator. I also subscribed to a local newspaper now. So.. diversify is the keyword.

I really loved Reddit.

I got banned from Reddit, not sure why, but I am sure I deserved it.

This is the closest I have found to reddit.

I had been on Reddit since 2011. This place feels a lot like the Reddit of 2011 but with less rage comics. I didn’t get banned. I left during the API debacle of 2023 when Reddit decided to push to make itself just a TikTok clone with occasional text and link posts and blocked the 3rd party clients using the API. Apollo kept Reddit as it was and without Apollo, I had no reason to use Reddit any more

I hear you. You get used to one of the clients, the really awesome nitche communities, start making friends (or at least start recognizing the user names) and then...rug pull. The clients were removed, a lot of the ways we communicated with said people got MUCH worse. And then you discover people are getting paid to post/comment on reddit, teh whole AI thing...just felt crummy.

The last thing you want to do is make it harder/impossible for your power users, users that love your platform enough to make a free app to interact with it to use said platform. Its so dumb they made a competitor thats still going strong to this day (US).

I used to haunt Rotten Tomatoes movie forums and that site did an upgrade that went on for months. It basically killed the board, so I moved to Reddit sometime in the late aughts.

This place is not nearly as active as Reddit was back then nor does it have as much porn.

I have no idea what the API thing is, I have heard about it around these parts.

For me the lowest and shittiest point for Reddit was the Ellen Pao stuff. Good damn, the internet is one sexists place but a vocal group of reddit users took that to the extreme.

The high point of reddit was The Swamps of Dagoba story and Woody Harrelson’s absolute shit of an AMA.

The high point of reddit was The Swamps of Dagoba story and Woody Harrelson’s absolute shit of an AMA.

Let’s talk about Rampart

"I'm sure I deserved it" as a fellow Reddit ban victim, I relate.

And yup, closest alternative. Forums aren't active anymore (or at least not much) and there aren't any thread-like platforms in bigger social medias.

It's smaller, and so there is less temptation to scroll when most of the posts I see are the same posts I saw yesterday.

I like the niche linguistic rebels I meet here, and even though I fundamentally disagree with them ("politics" shouldn't refer to all human group decision, the oakframe is too cryptic for most people to adopt, and "th" is better than "þ"by a wide margin), I respect their willingness to step out of the language comfort zone. Not many people can do that.

Also, I like the idea of starting my own Reddit/Twitter/YouTube, so to speak :D

It's smaller, and so there is less temptation to scroll when most of the posts I see are the same posts I saw yesterday.

Same here. Plus, there's no algorithm trying to suck you in. Anytime I make the rare visit to Reddit to check things like r/skyrimmods I have to actively avoid clicking on anything besides what I'm lookibg for, lest I waste the next hour scrolling and hating every minute of it

I'd recommend using something like the URL Blocker and blocking the front page

Don't really do social media, and sometimes I question if being on here makes me happier. Anyway I Used to be on reddit but left when I could not use the 3rd party app without paying.

That's fair enough, Reddit has certainly went down hill, especially for people like me in the UK. Being asked for ID left right and center is terrible but the API stuff was hell as well.

Intelligence is considerably higher

Eternal September will come to the Fediverse eventually. Enjoy it while it lasts.

It kinda already is. The number of misinformed boomer comments aren't nearly to the scale of Reddit or Youtube, but I'm seeing them more often

all the comments are written by humans and no bots.

Sounds like something a bot would say

Typical clanker reply mods ban this one now pls thx

lol

There are bots here. If the popularity rises there will be substantially more.

Lemmy is absolutely riddled with bots.

No ads, much less corporate influence, smaller, no spez, API access, and generally more chill

I like how it's more decentralised but still feels easy to use, and also has no ads and isn't controlled by companies trying to make money. I also love how it is easy to curate a feed with only content that you want in it, and none that you don't being shoved in by algorithms that collect all your data

Nobody knows who I am and everyone else here is just as nerdy as me.

Because the vast majority of you fucking cunts are polite, witty, delightful, intelligent people!

Functionally, I don't. Just because Mastodon is Fediverse won't make me "Tweet" more. Same thing here. In fact, I use Lemmy less than I used Reddit. Element does not measure up to what Discord does at the moment.

So outside of my beliefs of what the internet should be and the alignment of my choice of platforms with my beliefs, I'd rather be using the thing with the widest userbase and/or the best functionality. However, I no longer believe in Reddit, Discord, nor hardly any other big tech products; and so, here I am.

I do like the idea of federation, and I wish it were the norm for society when it comes to choice of product. But we're at a point where many people my age don't even know you can host your email outside of Google, and it's not really their fault. If I could wave a magic wand and snap every service to a federated nature, making everyone who uses the internet accustomed to using the federated web, I would do so in a heartbeat.

That said, does anyone know of a good chat service that actually has desktop audio on screen share? Preferably federated and similar to Discord, but obviously that's really specific.

Try a different Matrix client like Sable or Commet, they have much better ux than element. Element is honestly a pretty garbage matrix client when it comes to the ui and ux

Thanks, I'll try those out.

Bingo

It's pretty hard to be banned from the whole of the Fediverse

Reddit banned me and it genuinely felt like a much too toxic place in hindsight. It's less stressful on here as well. Plus I needed a similar alternative as most specialized forums nowadays are dead and I am fond of the easy community style.

If I'm gonna be mad at people's half-baked, ignorant takes, I'd rather it were e-strangers instead of people I know?

Also, the other alternative for online discussion is Reddit and that's a Western imperialist propaganda mouthpiece/controlled environment that was literally managed by the Epstein folk, so you can imagine how I and anyone with a modicum of sanity and morality had to leave as it became unbearable.

Because Fediverse is non-judgmental, I don't know who any of you are or what you look like, and Fediverse hasnt reprimanded or banned me yet.

All the sweaty nerds circle jerking about how great federation is. That, and all of the politics that goes on between different hosts and their moderation policies.

I don't dislike federation, but I think it introduced at least as many problems/nuisances as it fixes.

We're also in the very early years of deployment. A lot of issues are going to pop up when/if the user base expands.

Y'all are weird, crunchy freaks. Angry. Hostile. Curmudgeonly. Picky.

My favorites.

It's not corporate owned. No profit motive to turn things to shit.

Not sure I prefer it. Just another in my list that I use.

Everyone on reddit is so pedanticly confrontational, to make it worse, most people like that are just really confidently wrong and therefore it's an insufferable place. This also pretty much goes for all of mainstream media. Everyone has a shitty fucking opinion about basically everything now, and will fight you over everything no matter how big or small

Poisoned ass society and this seems to be a tad of an enclave

The community feels much nicer here

I don’t follow individuals, no one person is worth that, I don’t do that kind of allegiance or need to interact with a crowd of sycophant followers. So that eliminates a lot of social media right away. Threads, substack, instagram, whatever. Not interested in individuals.

I was on reddit for over a decade. Towards the end the subs became…meaningless? Reposts, bots, hive mind, karma whoring, and generally if you weren’t first to post you got zero interaction at best, at worst someone just wanted to disagree with you and downvote. Ask a question and you were stupid for not knowing the answer. Not worth it, and them came all the API issues, forcing the app, getting rid of Victoria, quarantining some subs while letting shitholes like T_D carry on… death by little cuts.

I much prefer forum-like settings, where most everyone can participate with everything and the Fediverse offers that. So here I am. Yeah, it’s not perfect, defederating is a thing, some servers are ideologically heavyhanded, it has some similar issues with users and mods as the other place, but at least the stupid Karma whoring isn’t a compounding factor.

I still use some facebook groups for hobbies, they just don’t exist here or have zero activity. But that’s about it for my social media.

I realized a few weeks ago, when a question was asked about what all the off-shoots of the fediverse were, that the "lemmy-style" of social media is the only one I like (piefed,etc included). I realized all the other ones focused on "following users" which is why I never got into them. I use voyager a lot to lurk when I'm away from the pc and it doesn't even show who posts it.

I just have no desire to follow an individual, company, influencer, or celebrity shit. I'm here for the content, poster be damned (but respectfully appreciate their contribution). I want a subscription feed based off of categories, just wish there was a video platform that did the same thing (I was always horrible about not using subscription feed for youtube and mostly only used it for local and news).

I'm here because I can't forgive reddit for what they did to Apollo. None of the communities I really want/need are actually even active on the fediverse but it's just the best I can get without participating in the shit show that reddit has become.

I miss the reach that reddit had and I continue to hope the fediverse will get there but.. after a few years I'm not as hopeful as I once was.

Fediverse is still growing though according to Fediverse Observer

Technically and practically much more open.

Slick, not burdened by ads and marketing.

I've always preferred threaded discussions over short messages or linear feed to read and take part in discussion and comments.

It is MINE. My data, my privacy, my communities. I can have accounts for my family and no one can access it conversations. I selfhost and I can still interact with the broader world.

FREEDOM

Also I LOVE trying out the new software coming out. THIS is innovation. Big Tech doesn't want to allow you to watch you're content from anywhere. They have to harvest you, feed you ads, keep you addicted.

I like that they’re all connected — I can follow the portion of my friends who prefer a more Instagram type of social media, or a more TikTok style of social media, or a more Reddit style of social media, all from my mastodon account.

Decentralisation.

Basically, the good parts of free speech arguments.

I do think there are things that can just be banned from existence, and be made illegal, but it's significantly more tolerant than the current vibe.

Reality doesn't give a shit about our systems of morals. There is a certain "mainstream, harmony and political correctness" creep that sometimes happens. And what's bad about that, is that bubbles brain wash themselves into believing that the way they think the world works is really how the world works. And what they hold isn't just a perspective and an opinion, but a fundamental truth about the world and deviation needs to be purged. And that eventually collides with reality. This is both true for racists and for people who think racism can be "cured" or "educated away" or "people can just consider the facts and change their mind".

The fediverse allows a more gradual interaction than centralized social media sites. Because centralized social media must decide how to deal with... depiction of politics, religious subjects, NSFW topics, which btw, covers everything from violence over nudity to medical conditions.

If there was a medical community sharing discussions about medical topics, I can block that and be unburdened by it, but there is no central fediverse authority that needs to decide if that medical picture is not allowed because there is a boob in it.

In short, banning a social group on social media, like racists, doesn't convince anyone or remove that group of people from factually existing and factually organizing.

Open Source Software works the same way, you can't be sure that math library isn't being used to control a remove controlled ballistic missile, but pretending that you can "ban math" depending on the purpose is stupid, so there is no point in worrying about it.

the green flash revealed it to me

There's other social media?

I guess there's also IRC, matrix, and individual forums here and there but it seems like fedi is an easier habit to get into.

Among many aspects, I liked that at first I had to figure out what instances are, that some instances required an application and I had to wait for approval, and looking at all the other instances users come from. It’s a very different feel than reddit et al, and I hope itv stays that way.

one. control. I did kbin over lemmy initially because its features were more robust and moved to piefed because it had and was adding many more options in general. two and actually this should be first. Non corpo. Im done with centralized control of my internet interactions.

I find the maturity level miles above reddit. Or maybe years-since-middle-school above reddit would be more accurate. Having said that, doomscroller mentality is still strong in the fediversre, but that seems inescapable. And tbh Lemmy and PeerTube are the only parts of the fediverse I use, since I'm not on Instagram or the various other things with federated alternatives.

Other social media is all crowded with an endless amount of humans, and most of them are trash. Here there's only a handful of people so even though we're mostly trash too it's not nearly as built up into stank mountains.

Also the frequent pauses in loading pages here reminds me to do other things.

Actual discussion is still possible in the Fediverse, at least for now.

Somewhat recently I was talking to a close friend about their brother and how he has been acting, particularly how he approaches discussions with those around him. My friend was telling me about a discussion they were having, and the only response his brother could give him was "you are uneducated and misinformed", but couldn't actually formulate an argument to back up his side. I physically laughed when he told me this and jokingly responded that he "sounds like a standard Reddit user", my friend paused for a second, chuckled, then replied "he basically lives on that site".

I'm yet to have this kind of online interaction on the Fediverse, and that is nice ☺️

More ownership over my data. Now I don’t really own anything I post on my Lemmy.world account but they also can’t stop me from exporting my subscription list and moving my account to somewhere else on the fediverse. And if I wanted to, I could port my account to a single user instance and I would actually own my local copy of the data (of course federation means I don’t really own the federated copies since it’s all public.

It’s more relevant on a platform like mastodon where I not only can export my follows but can port my followers to my new account if I move.

No ads, better control over the feed, conversations with real people, being part of an exciting socual experiment

Because the apps are better 😉

Cultural/social hegemony leads to bad places

Something something not selling me out to a hostile government?

I don't, it's like the worst parts of reddit with more bots and as an American there's a very obvious and clearly organized attempt to stop people from voting for democrats. Every thread filled with idiots blaming democrats for what republicans do and then proudly claiming they vote third party or don't vote like that's not voting for republicans. Watch, if I get any replies there's gonna be gpt comment filled with Russian propaganda saying how it's actually all the democrats fault.