What profession do y'all hate with deepest of passion
22d 7h ago by lemmy.world/u/cinoreus in asklemmy@lemmy.ml
No saying politicians please
Marketing, particularly Ads people. They exist only to hype shitty products, primarily. Sure they might get eyeballs on unknown brands, but I feel like that's not what they are paid big bucks for.
Ads make me especially mad because there’s reasonable evidence to suggest they aren’t effective at increasing sales so the whole thing feels like a scam to waste everyone’s time and money
Wait, really? Do you have a link?
The conventional wisdom is that they barely ever work, but they're also cheap enough per view it still makes economic sense for the one influenced purchase per person per year or whatever.
The research on it is pretty murky because marketing firms frequently fund research studies but if you poke around at some of the many meta-analysis papers out there I think it’s hard to conclude that advertising is a net profit for big companies, at least in a dollars in dollars out sense. Freakonomics did an interesting episode on the topic in 2020.
For a new brand with zero visibility I’m sure ads gain new customers, but established brands (which make up most of the advertising I see) probably aren’t making much of an impact on their sales with their incessant campaigns.
I want to also ad the people who are determined to put ads on FUCKING EVERYTHING. I grew up in the 90s, I remember when gods damn gas pumps were silent... I remember when the flashiest thing we saw on the store was when the soda displays were made into cool shapes... Get off my lawn and take your damn roofing company sign with you.
Fun fact: you can silence most gas pump ads by pushing the second-from-the-top button on the right-hand side of the gas pump screen... Not all pumps, and every now and then I encounter one that uses the third button down, but most pumps I've run into can be silenced.
It's unforgivable they've jammed ads into pumps full of disgustingly overpriced gas that you're already paying for...
keep an awl in the car... poke the speaker .
or, get some 3.5mm male ends and stick it into the headphone port for the bild folks. does it screw the blind/visually impaired from getting gas? sure..but it's an unfortunate side effect to saving all our ears. I wouldn't mind if I was blind, I'd just ask the attendant for assistance in pumping.
Is there a statistically significant population of blind people pumping gas? If you struggle to pump gas unassisted, I'm honestly not sure how you would safely operate a vehicle.
If you're legally blind you cannot get a drivers license. And it doesn't take much to be legally blind.
I dunno, machines have visual impairment functions like the audio jack which is why I said what I did
getting gas doesn't necessarily mean they are driving. could be for lawn mower, or they are paying/pumping but someone else is driving.
I have yet to run into any gas pumps with video ads personally, but this seems like a great way to drive EV adoption
As if they'd not eventually show ads aswell since charging times are even longer...
Luckily(?) charging times are long enough that you'd probably walk away from the charger and wait somewhere else.
That used to work but no longer does on a lot in my area. Stuffing recipts in the speaker holes could help if you know what I mean
Marketing is an industry built around manipulating people to buy things they otherwise wouldn't be interested in buying. There's no redeeming quality; the entire premise is shitty.
"Marketing" is just a euphemism for "propaganda."
I miss ads from the 60s-80s that were just a info-dump on the product with very little hype. You actually got to learn about what they were trying to sell you instead of a bunch of bullshit and a logo at the end.
Some ads I saw last year didn't even talk about the product, I had no clue what they were selling, other than a quirky relationship video
Chiropractors. It’s quackery performed by scam artists and idiots. A “ghost” told a crazy man about this magic during a seance, and his son saw a way to make a buck. The only thing it’s proven to do is cause paralysis.
In the same vein, homeopaths, and psychics that take advantage of vulnerable people (aka all of them)
I miss James Randi…
Have you followed Captain Disillusion by any chance? Similar vibe.
Sure have, CD is the best
wonder how less popular all that shit would be if the US just jad proper affordable/accessible healthcare like the most pf the rest of the modern world
Fun fact, in Europe a lot of countries will pay for your homeopathy. Woo actually might be a bigger thing there.
I do want to say that not all chiropractors claim to be able to cure everything with adjustments. Some are more like physical therapists. In fact my actual physical therapist did what a chiropractor does a few times. And I did feel better. But I have met plenty of the snake oil salesman type as well. Saying they can cure cancer with all sorts of things. Grifter gunna grift, no matter what name you slap on them.
I’m gonna suggest two:
- anyone at all who works at ICE
- anyone who works at an America health insurance company in any sort of managerial or leadership capacity
Whatever people with MBA's do.
No one on earth hates MBAs enough
I have a volunteer at my dog rescue who got her MBA but focused specifically on non-profit administration. She’s amazing, one of the most amazing we have because she handles grant writing and all the paperwork that keeps us in line. Her income job is with an np that helps refugees get their new life established.
It’s like lawyers that actually use their training for good, few and far between but there are some out there.
I still never remember what the fuck MBA stands for without looking it up, I can only think "Master Bachelor Associate" because I feel they're that pretentious; but, I know that's incorrect.
Master of business administration.
Master of Bullshitting and Asskissing
My former boss at an engineering firm had to do an MBA to climb the ladder. He said the secret to success was just to stop thinking rationally
Marketing and advertisers
This. Their job is litterally to get people to spend money on something they otherwise wouldn't spend money on. And they have a no holds barred attitude about separating people from their money.
This! Also , dishonesty and manipulation runs deep.
Law Enforcement. Military personnel.
Hedge fund investors, CEOs, cops, self help industry folks, homeopathic medicine salespeople, organizational structure consultants, social media influencers,
just gonna keep adding,
Suburban development planners, strip mall developers, developers who displace PoC neighborhoods, anyone in health insurance in the US, Catholic not-for-profits writ large, Catholic priests, tourist helicopter pilots...
Why tourist helicopter pilots? Everything else speaks for itself so I’m curious about that one lol
Ha, it is a bit personal I guess. They fly routes below 400ft continuously over parks, known landmarks, etc adding noise pollution that really gets to you.
SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCERS
Corporate lobbyists. They've played a large part in the gradual destruction of the USA in the name of profit for their filthy-rich overlords.
Scammer. People don't think it's a "profession" in the true sense but it absolutely is. Majority of higher up people in scam call centers or phishing campaigns do it as their day job and they certainly make more money than the average honest worker putting in the same amount of effort.
It's absolutely true. They might be a building over from someone doing level 1 tech support but making half the hourly rate.
Just having no morals won't make you rich, but it can pay the rent alright.
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Then I won't say but thats my answer
That's gonna be everyone's answer, hence I asked for anything else
Read the room, bro.
He literally did.
No, he wouldn't have asked if he did.
Seriously, why ask if you know the answer. Maybe ask what everyone's second most hated profession is? Y'know, cause I can read, and if you already know the first....
It's not that DW is dumb, its that she is stubborn and obstinate about being told what to do. Clearly you understand what the post was asking, you are just upset because it didn't ask it the way you wanted and doesn't contain the sentiment you wanted either.
Okay, I think we're crossed here. I am annoyed by your comment, not the way OP worded their question. Now my opinion, that this question is useless if you don't want the real answer, still stands. But you're not reading the room if you ask an obvious question but dont want the obvious answer. So my gripe here is with you not OP. Because they weren't reading the room as you claim. K, cool, facts are straight for you now.
They made a book based on that horrible movie??
Yeah its called I Ask Questions I Don't Want The Answer To
HR
You mean "The Fun Police"
At best. At worst they're happiness enforcers, and/or corpo double agents
Salespeople at car dealerships (used or new), and dealership owners moreso. In North America they benefit from protectionist laws to keep people from buying cars directly from manufacturers, which adds approximately $2k to the sale of each car on average. Pointless middlemen who are almost universally the worst people you can imagine. And the dealer service shops are not much better than scams either.
I'm sorry you had that experience. I work with former dealer technicians and they are good at fixing cars. Decent people all around. The service writers are often to blame. But with all that money on the line there is plenty of blame to go around. Fuck cars.
HR managers. They are there to protect the company and not the employees
Real-estate agents, followed by recruiters. Those people usually make good money while being absolutely shit at their jobs.
Try to find a real-estate agent who is capable of taking a single picture without their thumb partially covering the camera lens…
I had an Army recruiter call me when I was in H.S. After his initial "sales pitch' I told him I didn't believe in the military. That asshole was positively apoplectic. He went on the predictable "if-it-wasn't-for-the-military-we'd-all-be-speaking-Russian" screed, to which I just hung up on him.
Lobbyists
Insurance workers/administrators. They are there to prevent you from getting the healthcare you need. Luigi did nothing wrong. The night that human shit-stain got shot, Luigi was at my house drinking beers and playing cards.
Lobbyists, Human Resources, CEO’s, Corporate Attorney, Hedge fund manager, FBI, CIA, Mossad, ICE and Televangelist
- (in-house) Recruiter
- Project Manager
- Agile Coach
These are probably my top three. Recruiters who work in company HR, are usually very moody about who they pick, based on personal preference rather than facts. Sole proprietor recruiters are effective though, that’s why only the in-house ones.
The other two are similar, but they’re the “I work in IT” people who neither possess nor perform the technicalities. Actual imposters (unlike many good folk who do fair work but sometimes suffer from the “imposter syndrome”).
And yes, exceptions happen too. I just dislike these three roles in particular.
Weapons dealers and manufacturers, realators, landlords, lobbyists, law enforcement officers, immigration officers or any other monopolists of violence.
I can't believe this is the only mention of landlords to date.
Probably because most people don't think of it as a "profession". Lots of landlords hire property managers, which is a profession, but the landlord themselves are just collecting the money. Small-time landlords that might have 1 or 2 places they rent out probably have a real job, and just landlord on the side.
It's probably a relatively small percentage of landlords who actually do the work themselves, and do it as a full time job.
It's not really a profession, more of a business which you may or may not run yourself.
There's also the kind that's old and semi-retired and cares for properties part time. I'm curious what the breakdown is now. When it comes to the big properties, at least in Canada it seems like there's more multi-shareholder corporate landlords than Trump family-type landlords.
I despise tow operators (unless they exclusively work for repair shops) and their lesser cousins, car booters.
I'm also a "fuck cars" adherent, but tow operators are cop collaborators, and car booters are assisting them both to steal and ransom people's personal property at the behest of capital.
Law enforcement, military, defense contractors, Ad people, Mainstream economists and the obvious that follow from those such as so and so at policy institute of so and so.
Generically sales people. People that call themselves hustlers. Whatever grind mindset that the people who talk that up the most always ends up being people ladder stepping salespeople
Real Estate agents. Pointless leeches no one needs.
Outgoing call center, Door to door "sales", professional panhandlers.
Podcaster
Disability lawyers. Don't get me wrong, there are good ones. But I see so many that make people do everything themselves, help exactly zero with anything after the initial application, and they take a cut of the proceeds if people's applications are approved. They do something allegedly if the case is escalated up to a judge, but many of them that I've dealt with seem incompetent at best and predatory at worst.
Private equity firms, Attorney General, scalpers
came here to say data broker but private equity takes the cake. no "job" worse.
Potentially unpopular response: engineers! I respect the knowledge and intellect, and I do not respect the deficits in curiosity and emotional intelligence. The engineers I know (some of whom I love) tend to be experts on the things they do know, but they don't know what they don't know.
As an engineer, I can understand your sentiment. Unfortunately, it's a field that attracts a lot of smart and socially awkward people. Those whose heads enjoy engineering challenges often lack self awareness, and it results in either being really awkward or being obnoxious, or both. The "good ones" are less loud, so you don't hear from them as much.
I love engineers <3
Software engineers though tend toward tech bro. But on the other hand there are Really Amazing SWEs that again just aren't that loud or annoying so you gotta be patient or lucky to meet them.
If you walk into someone's home and it's full of the latest and greatest tech, that's a tech enthusiast. If you walk in and the most advanced piece of tech is a printer from 2005, that might be a senior software engineer.
As an engineer, I suppose I should be offended by this. But I realize that it is based on "emotions," a type of internal sensory experience some humans have on a daily basis. This is not logical, and shall be disregarded. End statement.
I too lost all semblance of my humanity once I choose a field of study. Nobody warned me this would happen, but afterwards I was unable to have any feelings about it and was not longer curious enough to ask.
Cops
Marketing consultants
finance
Scammers/grifters. Put all that effort into something moral and legal and make a living without having to worry.
CEO and Marketing
Politicians please.
And landlords and the entire finance industry.
Not mentioned yet, people working at real estate agencies (at least for renting). They take a lot of money from both sides and at best just unlock the houses so people can see them, at worst they are actively disruptive to the process.
Imperial stenographers
Insurance claims adjusters.
I always see people online answering lawyers to this question but after thinking about it I don't really understand why. Sure they might represent some horrible people but in the end they are just there to make someone gets due process.
I may have a theory but put your tin foil hats on
Maybe it's a psyops from the prosecutors trying to discredit lawyers because they are making their jobs more difficult
Litigation PR, I feel they primarily exist to cover for rich guilty people
united states businesses
People who lack basic empathy or sympathy for other people.
Liability lawyers
Defense attorneys. They give you false hope they can give you a positive outcome but they just want more billable hours.
I feel like any lawyer should only be able to bill half their rate if they lose the case
In some civil cases they do literally just ask for a cut of any winnings.
Why anyone should hate politicians is beyond me.
Edit: I was talking about hating "politicians" as a profession. I am not talking about just office bearers, but also people whose career is politics, whether they win elections or not.
There are definitely many power hungry and disingenuous politicians. Probably the vast majority. BUT hating politicians as a rule is just antidemocratic cynicism IMO. An excuse to not pay attention, to not hold politicians accountable, and to not want to compromise under any circumstance.