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I am extremely fatigued with the constant negativity

13d 26m ago by lemmy.world/u/tired_n_bored in asklemmy

I am so fatigued with so much negativity that happens in the world and in my personal life as well. I have become numb to the topics I used to care such as politics, equal rights, environment and so on: I just want my day to end and that's it. I don't think I'm depressed tho (I used to and I know what it is like).

I don't know what to do. What would you suggest doing? Thank you.

Get off all social media you can.
On the social media you can't, block anything politics and news related. They are designed to keep your attention with psychological triggers.
Start a hobby, reading is cheap to get into assuming you have a library. Drawing with pen and paper, colouring in books. Honestly anything that takes you away from a screen.

Also start a physical hobby if you can. Exercise, besides the mental benefits, is going to be a more powerful distraction than anything intellectually adjacent IMO.

Ideally, outside, in nature. This too has been shown to have mental health benefits. Go walk in the woods.

Honestly nothing brings me back down to earth and resets (almost) all my stress and worries like spending time in a forest

Trees are awesome they deserve so much more respect, theyve been around for so much longer than us just chilling making oxygen and a habitat

Spotting wildlife is also entertaining

The sound is critical for me, pure nature noises, no human geberated crap like cars or yelling or construction or whatever

Nature is extremely unhurried which is so radically opposite of almost every aspect of modern life that it's like finally get a breath of air to be able to immerse yourself in a setting that isn't manically trying to get your attention.

Or take your money just for existing

I taught myself a few knots! Took a few tries, but now I can tie a monkey's fist without screwing it up too badly. Gives me something to do with my hands for a while, and I can give them away as gifts.

Get off all social media you can

This means Lemmy and the greater Fediverse too. It's nice being part of a network of people that share similar views on things but damn this place can be depressing. Kind of just a byproduct from the state of the world but humans weren't designed to be aware of every horrible thing happening on this planet

It's better if you limit your feed to subscribed communities. Not perfect, but without that it's like a hundred negativities per minute.

You can also set up word filters in a lot of the Lemmy apps. Filtering words like Trump for example will remove a lot of negative content from your feed, especially since people are bad to post about him in specifically non-political communities.

Today I was about to post on here about basically the same thing, and, well, I don’t know, I guess I want to talk or at least write it out. I’ve been blanket blocking politics and news ever since Trump got elected - as black and white as it gets. If a sub I see says “Trump”, it is blocked, and that is also applied everywhere else, including people I used to interact with. I completely left TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, and mostly left Reddit, because I thought it would make me feel better. Between here and Reddit my blocklist probably has multiple hundreds of places that do nothing but wallow in misery or post about how everything sucks. Long story short I’m way less on social media now.

Anyway, it didn’t make it better. I’m still on here, occasionally, and now I’m finding that I also fucking hate it; everyone sounds miserable, no one is kind to themselves, there is a lot of hostility in general in relation to a bunch of severely inconsequential stuff—like serious heated arguments about which flavour of sponsored diarrhoea is less disgusting when consumed—I’ve even started noticing it in myself hanging out here. What I realised is that all the platforms I’ve left, I did so because they went to shit and lost any semblance of what I liked them for. It would’ve been fine if it was one facet, but it’s fucking everything, everywhere, and all at once, IRL and online.

Everything is invented, perfected, sometimes repeated and remembered, gentrified, commodified, sold for a profit, repackaged, dropshipped, consumed, regurgitated, optimised, dopamine fracked (shameless self promotion), ran through ChatGPT, summarised by Claude, and then I get to interact with it - maybe. If I subscribe for $9.99/wk. Just… so many things have become like that, it’s insufferable to ingest and even harder to create, because you have to meet that standard if you want the herd to see you, and for me creating for no audience at all is no fun, and empty proclamations of “just create!” help very little.

I have about a billion different hobbies (ADHD) and they don’t help or pay off at all, maybe just to distract myself and burn time faster, but there’s no enjoyment anymore. Everything kind of sucks there too.

And taking myself away from screens only serves to make me feel even worse - here a lot of my friends and a lot of my hobbies live one way or another; that’s why I used to love computers. Out there, people hate me for being gay, I have to mask constantly, and I faint from the summer heat. And now I can’t even love computers in peace at home, because even they have been mercilessly slopped by our sacreligious overlords.

I don’t feel depressed - I have a great job, friends, money, stuff, hobbies, social norms say I’m not really supposed to be depressed with all of that anyway. But I’m really struggling to actively enjoy anything anymore, and I’m honestly beginning to think it’s not me but everything else lol, as egotistical as that is. Except it’s not just me, it’s very prevalent - everyone knows everything sucks, and that’s another reason everything keeps sucking even harder. Oh well. I enjoyed writing this, a little, for a moment.

Sorry for rambling.

A similar option is to split your social media accounts in two. Keep everything political on one account, only dive into that account occasionally/rarely.

For your main account, keep it subscribed to all of your hobbies and unsubscribe from anything political. For this account switch your news feed into "uplifting news" feeds.

Gotta find your way back to this vibe. There's a lot of good out there, a lot to be grateful for. And on a long term timescale the world is in many ways better than ever before on important stuff like infant mortality.

Stop reading the news. You rarely if ever get any information that will change your decisions anyway.

Get off any social media or other that feeds you negativity.

Stop reading the news.

And read Rolf Dobelli's great essay about why this is such a good thing to do:

https://web.archive.org/web/20181219225833/http://www.dobelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Avoid_News_Part1_TEXT.pdf

Coming off his tenth point (news as status)I've long suspected that news just functions as kind of salacious gossip on the whole. I've got a pet theory it's something to do with propping up the petty bourgeoisie mindset to prop up the bourgeoisie on the whole... Something about how the breathless engagement with and production of said gossip encourages values like the hard work of staying informed, having an individualised curated intake, the dispassionate observation of it all...

I find that 99% of the negativity is online. Interacting with people in person is way more pleasant and upbeat. And basically on youtube ignore all videos with clickbait titles like "We were Wrong about [whatever] - and it's NOT GOOD!", they're all bullshit.

Hosting one or two regular game nights a week in my house has made a world of difference in my attitude.

I couldn’t agree more. Generally I’m only down on the world when I look at Reddit. It’s important to have a community of real people in rotation.

Moving to Lemmy helped because I only see what I subscribe to and there is no algorithm that is shoving politics in my face constantly.

I feel like Lemmy is like 90% snide remarks or sarcastic comments, not exactly upbeat here either. Depends on your subreddits (sublemmies?) of course

People have a psychological disposition to latch on to negative ideas faster than positive ones so it makes sense that negative ideas are more viral online

I wonder if that's a survival mechanism - to dwell on negative events more because they're more dangerous. My parents, raised during the Great Depression, were always thinking the next one could be right around the corner.

It has to be.

"On the internet nobody knows you're a dog"

If you're noticeably weird in some way, any way, IRL can be harsh. On the internet, there's more hostility total, but it's not usually directed at you.

speak for yourself. i fine way more negatively, that is way more intense, in person than I do online.

at least online I can find a diversity of opinions, references to facts, and can ignore/block people without consequence.

and i largely share most of my political beliefs with my fellow IRL, I just don't... share their vitriolic hate of people who are different than themselves. or their incessant need to 'correct' other people of their 'ignorance'

god i can't even like go to a cafe or a bar for a drink anymore without people around me incessantly going on about stuff like this, even if I'm not directly involved. the narcissism and nastiness is just everywhere in my community, but I do live in a very affluent place full of folks who have zero humility.

Yeah, type of crowd really matters. I mean, they all suck in some way, we're only human. But not necessarily that exact way.

I've radically cut my news intake and it's helped, but the side effect is a worry about being uninformed and ignorant to what's happening. There's that famous quote about how "withdrawal in disgust is not the same as apathy" and I try to hold on to it.

Social media is also, of course, awful - but in a different way than it was. I used to have friends, family, colleagues and aquantances on it and yes, their curated profiles and posts, which were often at odds with my real world knowledge of who they actually are as people, could be jarring.

However, actual humans have all but disappeared from my feeds. Now it's just click-bait, based on whatever the fuck the algorithms have decided I want to see - which apparently is no longer friends and family posts (which, granted, folks have largely stopped doing), but weird corporate news stories and AI generated articles from sites I've no interest in.

Worse still, if I make the mistake of clicking on a story and find myself reading the comments, the feeling of disappointment, frustration and anger I get from reading the ignorant brain farts that pass for opinions, espoused by a seemingly endless sea of selfish, deluded morons is genuinely disheartening.

I foolishly clicked on a Sky News link yesterday about Musk's soon to be trillionaire status (don't ask me why) and the comment section was just teaming with idiots baying for 'lefty tears' and brazenly bootlicking the billionaires. I'd like to think that a lot of them were bots, but who even knows.

Any faith I had in democracy has completely evaporated. I don't consider myself massively intelligent or particularly special, but it seems like there's a surplus of proudly hateful and stupid folk out there and they seem to be in a majority. These fuckers vote, so it's hard to imagine that we'll ever have a government that has any real decency or compassion at it's core.

Anyway, I wish you well. There is good in the world and maybe we all need to rise above the morons, disengage from the media and just try and do our best by our fellow humans. Maybe that's the key. That, and Ice Cold beer at every opportunity.

Get off the internet. Truly. When it gets to be too much, put your device away and do something else. My go-tos, I either cook something, play music or go for a walk.

Go skate

Summertime is skate time, baby. Still kick flipping in my almost-forties! 🤝

Hell ye

Some people call doing meth ice skating, and I support OP ice or roller skating rather than going and doing meth, but I support OP going and doing meth rather than continuing to doom scroll their devices.

I prefer dancing but the idea is the same

Get off social media and avoid the negative people in your life as much as you can for a bit. Read some books. Play a chill video game. Make something. Just get away from it for a while so you can re-center yourself.

Things are bad and we should be worried about them but there's only so much any of us can do about it. If you don't take care of yourself and your mental health you're not going to be able to do good for anyone else when the time comes.

You can start by trying to stare at this painting for 10 minutes, and tell me what you experience.

Dickbutt? Loss? Come on, there must be something hiding in there...

The real horror starts when you notice the cross above the painting. Specifically, someone anointed it with oil, and it won't go away from the walls anymmore.

of course anointed oil wouldn't work it's an oil painting. you need holy water because oil and water don't mix

We had this priest draw crosses with holy oil, and it stayed om the walls. It reminds me of that game called Faith.

So, my parents are fundamentalist Orthodox nutjobs.

This is why I hike

To look at paintings?

Is mindfulness what you're getting at?

I can't do negative rn, might as well share something that brings peace?

Me too! It's exhausting, and the most frustrating part is that it's contagious. Generally, this means it's time for me to turn off my phone and go outside in the sunshine and watch a soccer game. I dunno what your "watch a soccer game" is, but things like riding a bike or walking in a park or dangling your legs in the ocean definitely qualify. Mostly, the idea is to remind myself there are good things too, and to remember that the rain falls on the just and the unjust alike.

Whenever someone asks me are you watching the news?

No fuck that shit.

But don't you care?

I only care about shit I can control.

Same thing you do when anything else is fatigued, you rest. Take a break from all that stuff. You are not the savior of the world and everything will not fall apart because you stopped paying attention for a little while.

I'm sure you've had other hobbies, get back into those. Play some games, watch some movies, read a book (not about those topics), get some exercise if you aren't already. If it creeps up in the back of your mind to go look at the news or whatever, that's fine just ignore it, it'll go away. Do stuff so that you're enjoying your time and wanting more of it rather than just waiting for the day to end.

Touch grass. Leave your phone home and go outside and enjoy nature. Go on a hike. Stop reading the news, any news, for a while, you will be fine.

I'm in the acceptance stage of grief; the world is a shithole. Some people will tell you about all the good in the world, but that is just being dismissive of the bad. Good does not simply cancel out the bad, especially when the recipients of the good and bad are different.

Instead, I try to focus on the things that I actually can change. If you have the means, volunteer or donate to a cause that is important to you.

Focus on the micro rather than the macro, otherwise it gets overwhelming.

Lots of folks say to cut news intake (however it is happening). This is correct. Everyone suggesting you pick up other things, very wise.

If you are burned out of all these topics entirely, this is probably enough/right. If you still, for whatever reason, wish to engage with the unending crisis:

  • Sit down and prioritize. Pick a narrow issue, find good sources on Precisely that, and read/engage with only things that fit. RSS feeds support keyword filters.
  • Find longform content related to what you care about. Books, long podcasts, etc. Shortform only has time to make you panic. Longform can actually give nuance, solutions, and an honest accounting of the situation (it doesn't always. But you have a chance.)

A couple things:

  • Use keyword and community filters in Lemmy to clean up what's presented to you.
  • Use the "Not Interested" and "Don't Recommend Channel" options in Youtube to cull the trash from your algorithm feed.

It will make your life so much more peaceful. Don't let the algos just blast their firehose of shit at you. Tap your own stream of customized content by interacting with these tools instead.

Figure out why you feel compelled to constantly look first because there's a variety of reasons why we can be stuck in a rut. Mine was indoctrinated into me. 1990's school and family taught me to feel shame for not keeping up with current events. My dad seemed to think it was his duty to watch cable news.

Your reason(s) could be different. I had to learn that disconnecting isn't shameful and isn't actually harmful. I'm a peasant with very minority progressive points of view in Alberta. I can't really affect very much at all with knowledge not even through voting under a FPTP system. Nothing peaceful anyways and anything else is taboo still since things haven't declined far enough yet. If my mood is particularly sour, I can disconnect entirely up until I have to make a potentially important decision. Then, I already know where to go looking to get caught up on relevant information immediately. You would too, I'm sure you're well practiced.

I replaced corporate algorithms and content aggregators with RSS feeds for news. I replaced short form video content with nothing since I don't think there's a healthy form of it. I lost word of mouth information especially when it comes to entertainment and local activist information. That's replaced with email newsletters. Took a lot of time to set up but I feel locally connected in a healthier way now.

I word filter Fediverse. Not always, just when I feel burn out. I can with this instance or I could use an app for Lemmy based instances lacking the feature. I have a separate browser extension called FilterBubble for platform agnostic filtering. Again, I toggle my lists on and off depending on my mood. I don't sub to too many meme or news communities here, peace of mind. My RSS feeds are higher quality and match my tastes. I really don't need to see anything posted by media owned by American billionaires or Post Media. Stuff like that.

I've started reading instead of scrolling in my phone. And it's helped a lot tbh.

I know it really doesn't help, but remember that this is how they want you to feel

part of this is from so many users fallen to ragebait chasing the addiction of revenge by finding constant new ways to degrade the enemy. i try to do my part a bit by posting uplifting news once in a while but it's so hard not to be surrounded by unnecessary negativity on lemmy. yes things are bad, no that does not give you the right to do the easy thing and make everyone feel really pitchforks about cosmetics over it.

what's something you can do to feel better? for some people sun exposure can help a little. literally, with or without sunscreen. doing things that happen to give you sun exposure like walking around on the streets can still give you enough of the endorphin boost.

a short-term strategy that can be helpful at the start is journaling the things you feel gratitude about. at your own pace, too. go big or go home is a bit of a lie for building habits

i used to love volunteering.

but then the ragebait addicts just kept turning our volunteer work into 'we have to fight the bad people and only help the good people' and wanted us to like turn peopel away based on skin color/sex at the door... and saw absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Find some creative outlets like coloring, clay work, paint. Heck just get a playlist to dance to. Find a little bit of light everyday to get off the devices and have some slow time.

Get an outdoor hobby. I like riding bikes in the woods.

This is a call that comes from inside the house.

The world's the world. There's always ugliness, corruption, darkness, deception. There's always beauty, nobility, light, truth.

Watcha lookin' at?

Pick a point of passion, prepare a plan, purge problems, and pursue progress. Proliferate possibilities and promote prosperity.

Some good suggestions here - I’d also add to defend your boundaries. You don’t need to save the world, or your town, or your - y’know, whatever. Get the you time. (And don’t spend it scrolling.)

Try the ancient mystical meditation art of a good book. You’d be surprised.

Anything outdoors. I like mountain biking and gardening, but you do you.

One nice thing about nature is that it has totally different problems than we do. Like, we should be glad we're not wild deer, but they never have to deal with bureaucracy, or subtle mean girls shit.

I hug someone when I have someone, or a pillow or something

Genuinely one of the only things that takes my mind off how horrible this world is

I work on my car or work on or ride my bicycles. Its hard to worry about shit when you need to focus on what you're doing.

I'm right there with you bud. I just posted something similar recently. I think anyone with a modicum of empathy feels the same way right now.

Sell everything, move to Vietnam?

Everybody gets the fuckits from time to time.

Breaks are important. I think it's good being interested in politics but too much can be exhausting. What I do is take a long walk preferably in nature. Music is a great outlet as well. And even though I think that you might not feel like doing sports, since I know that kind of fatigue you write about, I believe that this would help, too. And sometimes it's sleep.

I encounter negativity when discussing politics online. Somehow quite a few people get insulting and expect me to change my view after. It's irritating and hinders my will to be open minded when discussions are tinted with insults.

Anyway, I hope you find the things your mind needs to recover.

I encounter negativity when discussing politics online. Somehow quite a few people get insulting and expect me to change my view after. It’s irritating and hinders my will to be open minded when discussions are tinted with insults.

In some cases, it has to be people that just get off on conflict. Trolls, but like a kind that pretends to be a normal community participant. In other cases it's more like they've forgotten there's someone real on the other side.

When you have a good conversation with someone you don't agree with at all, that shit is fascinating, though.

For me: it's the total loss of faith in humanity.

Even the political views I used to associate with "the good people" - now I see their proponents as maniputive, self-serving, bullies.

So there's no cause to support anymore: no good or evil. No point supporting the needy: because they're terrible people just like everyone else - I'll only be supporting their selfishness and the suffering they will create.

So all I'm left with is: getting from this moment of time until the time of my death as easily as possible.

Yeah, it's tough. We're kind of raised with the expectation there's good people and bad people, right? Some are savvy enough to know that's bullshit really early on; others don't care if it's literally true and can just live in the fantasy. The rest of us have to deal with it if and when we figure it out.

It seems like there should be a way to live a good life in a world full of morally neutral people. I can't really say I've figured it out.

Even the political views I used to associate with “the good people” - now I see their proponents as maniputive, self-serving, bullies.

That's because the mouthpieces for these things are all being taken by politicians,YouTubers, and tiktok people who are primarily there to grift and attention whore. You can still support the people who need help without consuming these people's content. Just focus on what you can do locally and work your way out from there.

IRL activists also tend to be pretty funny (yes this is a self-own). Doing abstract good just isn't a strong motivator on it's own.

Staying apprised of things is work. Sometimes you gotta take a vacation.

i end up avoiding them on youtube, reddit not even clicking on them. look for niche content instead. i think you are too hyperfocused on politics, and might be addicted to enter those communities and comment. look for something else to do instead. watch education science channels, or a movie or two that.

i specifically blocked world politics by the way they are moderating that community.

I say this as someone who has long had the same problem as you: Perhaps it is because those topics of yours have very high stakes for you personally? There is little chance of things being solved today, right? Longer term, sure. Of course. The bastards always run out of people to turn on before their numbers collapse.

Lower the stakes where you can by helping your mind escape from "focused on the real world" to "focused on anything else, or nothing at all."

Could get into a tv show or movie series, if you're spending time indoors a lot. Or read a book, listen to a podcast, and so on. Put the phone on charge in another room, put on your entertainment, maybe a little popcorn? You'll forget about the bullshit for a few hours. It helps.

Also? Create stuff! Write, draw, paint, sculpt, even poorly! I am dealing with the stress of everything by teaching myself to write movies. That's a couple hours at a time where I get lost in a world I created, playing around with characters I invented. It might never be good or it might, but for now, it's almost a form of therapy.

Even doing something like joining a recreational club, like a trivia league or a bowling league, might give you a few hours a week that aren't a constant reminder of the fucked up parts of the world.

Try to think of things that might be zen time for you. Meditation. Yoga. Religion, if that's your thing. Buddhism, if you're looking to borrow some practices without joining a religion.

Exercise can get you out of the real world and into zen mode, too. As a younger man, I played baseball and football/soccer, so I ran a lot between seasons to stay in shape. Between practice time, game/match time, and running time, I was constantly in zen space. You could use any competitive endeavor and get the same kind of benefits. You don't even have to be good at it or win. It's weird. I would have guessed losing would take away from it, but it didn't.

I wish you good luck and I promise, you won't feel this way forever. It does get better! I am living proof, bro.

if you're going to stay on internet web forums, you need to start curating your subscription lists with only things you 100% enjoy. don't subscribe to any news communities (tech, medical, political etc)

exercise. don't have to lift weights, but taking yourself out for a quick 10 minute walk will do you wonders. you can up the amount of time you walk around once you start feeling better

and, of course, surround yourself with positive people. best piece of advice I've ever gotten was to never let anyone "outnice" me. the scumbags will, of course, take advantage, but they have shown their hand and you can alter your kindness to them accordingly. the genuinely good people, on the other hand, will reciprocate those acts and life gets better for both of you.

good luck and let me know if you have any other questions. you got this! 🙂

Good. You're growing. A lot of us are. The internet is not a place to get depressed, it's a place to unwind in free time.

Just be the change you want to see in the world, and only give your time to others who do the same. Overtime you'll be fine.

Block everything you're not interested in. You don't get brownie points for complaining about stuff, and in all honesty it doesn't make a difference anyway.

Art. Do something creative for its own sake. Play some music, draw something, write something, glue something silly to your wall. Remember that not everything you do has to come with purpose or justification.

You're alive, and at this very moment aren't being physically consumed by a predator. Take it in and let yourself enjoy it.

Do you feel like a frog in water that keeps slowly getting hotter? It's uncomfortable, you know it's getting worse, but there really isn't much to do, a lot of people yelling about it, things feel bad, your hands are tied, this isn't how it's supposed to be, i want something else, why the fuck is this happening?

Or do you just feel like your life is fine and will be fine and other people are bringing you down?

Dunno. I'm in the same boat but I don't feel comfortable burying my head in the sand, either. Just tired.

I guess I'm making do with hobbies and nostalgia. Like, when picking up my kids, I used to listen to NPR to stay informed but now I just get the headlines and listen to radio stations I listened to as a teen. Hunkering down, since most of the bad news is rather out of my control.

Like Zarathustra, retire ten years on the mountain.

If you pay even more attention, you'll start seeing good things. It's an insanely bad year for the worst people in the world, for example.

Reduce your intake, replace with something else.

I don’t know what to do. What would you suggest doing? Thank you.

Re-learn there is something else than FOMO that makes your live worth living. How? 1) turn off news and social media. 2) Don't turn them back on, even when it irks so bad.

There's always gonna be negativity, you've gotta strive for the positive. "Enjoy the little things" - Zombieland.

It's tough. Social contract is broken and yet we're all still mostly working for capitalists and paying taxes. I think there are a lot of right answers and paths forward, but the current system and momentum is all in favor of increasing inequality.

I've spent the last several years just trying to understand it and that helps me. Seeing how things are currently playing out and events that lead there just makes it clearer. That and diving into hobbies that also double as useful collapse skills (gardening, leather work, 3d design and printing, electronics).

When I was a teen, I wanted to be the hero who saves the world. That's impossible. I still felt the desire but age has tempered it. I still wish I could make everything better, but it's more of a dream than a constant urge. So, I've decided to repeat to myself: I can't save the world, but I can make my corner a little nicer.

Once I started framing my life like that, it's a bit easier to do small things to improve my life. I can pick up that piece of litter. I can return that shopping cart.

I can't stop corrupt politicians from being corrupt and ruining the planet and killing other people half a world away. I can only save my friends and family. So I focus on them.

Additionally, I filter out the news that makes me sad (tons still gets thru).

Great job speed running the progressive to reactionary challenge! Most people wait until they're 30-40 to start being selfish pricks, I'm glad you got it figured out in your early 20s!

Enjoy being numb and ignorant.

I don't understand what you mean. Can you explain it?

I cannot explain particle physics to a particle.

Know the four noble truths and follow the eightfold path.

Time to ditch platforms, friends, hobbies, whatever allows that negativity in

I for one am somewhat optimistic about the future. Not just mine, but humanity as a whole. Sure, things are pretty shit for many people right now, but I believe it'll get better.

But optimism doesn't make for very interesting headlines or click bait.

So when negativity seems to be the only thing you see, look elsewhere. Hell, even look past the negativity - You'll always find someone doing good in the midst of it all, simply because it's the right thing to do.

same. my optimistic comes from contextualizing things... which almost nobody does anymore and the media purposefully does not.

i also remember a time when not everyone thought their life was a personal tragedy of epic proportions or who personalized every world event as some deep personal trauma. life doesn't have to be this way... folks just choose to live it this way.

You need to be proactive about it which requires work. Challenge your assumptions, spend time thinking critically and philosophically, look at historic art and consider the tragedy those artists must’ve witnessed and how they turned that tragedy into something meaningful that can still affect us today.

i agree, but for most folks doing this won't necessarily make their lives better or make them feel better.

I haven't seen "look on the bright side" yet.

That's frequently dumb, unhelpful advice, because it's presented as a cure-all. But, the way anything negative gets amplified, it's worth considering if you're overlooking the good stuff.

Like, most Lemmings have flown on a plane, at near the speed of sound above all the clouds. Cavemen would have killed for that opportunity. When we look at the stars, we know what they actually are. We're not having more and more kids unsustainably anymore.

Edit: Oh, never mind, I just missed it.

Maybe I'll just add the abstract idea of hope, then. Things still could turn out okay even if they're bad now.

Good for you that you became numb to it.

This is just the beginning. It will not get better, because after this current shitshow there's the climate disaster growing and coming with full, unmitigated force. This will cause mass migrations, deaths and chaos world-wide. Humanity just fucked it up. Make the best out of it but don't expect anyone who's young today to have any sort of positive future.

I would suggest going super gay. I'm not trolling honestly. Give it a think anyways, keep your mind open. Change it up.

Just deciding to be gay all of a sudden isn’t a thing, and right wingers use this misunderstanding to advance bigotry and restrict rights.

Yeah that's clearly me check my profile. I say a lot of things without thinking and this is a bit new to me so I will be more mindful. I do think that not being able to joke about things causes a lot of division in itself.

Thank you for your answer and I'm glad you found peace in discovering your sexuality but I'm afraid "try being gay" doesn't really help lol

Thank you and good luck :)

Aww c’mon . . . All the cool kids are doing it!

As a very gay person, it doesn’t help

I’m constantly fighting suicide

I'm sorry to hear that. I just recently came to this realization myself and I have been really ecstatic as things have been falling into place that I have been dealing with for a very long time. I apologize if I said something dumb. Love and light to you <3

It's very subjective, don't worry :)

I, too, was very very happy to fully come out of the closet and live openly as a queer person. It just depends on a lot of other factors as far as maintaining the optimism!

Thank you, yes I suppose that is true for most things and I really need to keep that in mind. I have a real problem with that sort of thinking sometimes as a neurodivergent person. There is a lot of grief that came with the realization too, but overall I just feel such a weight off my back. I hope I can better learn to support other people with their struggles now.

Wtaf

It was just a clumsy way of explaining how they feel personally after coming out of the closet. I don't think they meant offense.

Yes thank you. I really don't have a place to share my joy irl, I will use the more appropriate comms here for this sorry. To be honest my main problem is not taking anything too seriously, which I also count as a strength, so I joke about things that maybe I shouldn't. I thought it is clear but I guess it's hard to tell in text. I don't think it's necessary to point it out every time as it is just causing more division when you can't even joke about things? I dunno.

Just wait until the fascism actually kicks in. You'll long for the time when you had the privilege of ignoring it.

Until then you should be fighting like hell, not giving up in advance. Doing something will make you feel better.