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What WM or DE are you using now?

11d 4h ago by lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/ScoffingLizard in linux@lemmy.ml

Spent lots of time with Gnome 2.

In Dec 2024 I got hooked in Hyprland on Arch and have a cool rice for it. But I've tried KDE on desktop now with Parrot OS since Plasma is popular. Still need to find some cool dot files or rice it myself.

I've noticed SwayFX getting lots of love lately. I might use that as an option with Plasma but am afraid of conflicts. I'm excited about it since Linux has now officially replaced windows on my gaming rig, which is the very last MS computer left in my house.

KDE Plasma because I'm basic and I wanna get stuff done 👍

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That's why I just started using Plasma.

KDE. I don't even do much to customize it. I think it looks pretty good out of the box.

The only thing I customize is to turn off the floating panel, I just can't stand the small gap on the bottom and the sides. It just looks off to me.

I’d like to compliment on it changing that when you open a full screen app. Yet, these tiny pixels look so little difference that it looks very much off to me indeed. And I’d prefer to have no dock at all. So I use Sway for myself. It’s that I interact with KDE sometimes.

Niri + Noctalia shell. I find the scrolling tiles to be excellent for my workflow, and the desktop shell feels nice and polished. Plus, Niri supports the Wayland zwlr_layer_shell, which means I can finally use Wallpaper Engine; there's even a Noctalia plugin for it.

Niri has been great for gaming and streaming, so be sure to check it out if you haven't.

I would be hesitant to use anything but KWin with Plasma. They were designed together as a set (like Mutter and Gnome), and I suspect replacing the WM would be no small task.

Do you mind elaborating on that Wallpaper Engine thing and also Natalia shell. What are they? I’m familiar with Niri, but never used it myself. (Not sure I like scrolling logic, I use barebones Sway.)

Noctalia is a Quickshell fork that's preconfigured. It's pretty solid, lightweight, and with the most Niri integration I've seen. Comes default in the Cachyos Niri config.

Noctalia is a fork of Quickshell, and it provides a bar, dock, background handling, plugins store, and easy settings menus to adjust everything. It feels nice and polished, and it's got a lot of "nice to haves" covered. It also works with Sway! The scrolling logic is a Niri thing, so no need to worry about that.

Wallpaper Engine is a tool hosted through Steam that allows people to have animated desktops, sometimes ones that have sound and even interactivity. The problem is that it's 100% built to work with Windows only. Because it's changing something on your system and not just drawing things on screen like a game, there's really no way for Proton or Wine to help.

And that's what Linux Wallpaper Engine is for! It can take the wallpaper resources and apply them to window managers that support the zwlr_layer_shell protocol, which allows a z-positioning order for the background for Wayland clients. Noctalia has a plugin that makes that integration much easier to manage, so it feels like it's part of the system rather than a hacky workaround.

So Hyprland with Plasma would be no bueno? Honestly, if I can get my dots right, tile some windows, and get the hotkeys set up similarly, it might be just as good.

It might not work, yeah. KDE has integrated KWin and Plasma very purposely that I would be impressed if you could implement the one without the other. Not saying it can't be done, because this is Linux after all, but KDE didn't design Plasma to be modular software, so I would imagine you'd experience broken integrations and such that "just work" with KWin.

KDE Plasma. It's clean, fast, and just works.

I use KDE. I like how easy it is to customize pretty much everything. Like, if I want everything to be green, I can make everything green and no one can stop me.

KDE Plasma. It's the most feature rich "just works" DE there is. GNOME doesn't even have fucking maximize and minimize buttons by default without adding them via GNOME Tweaks.

I used to be a Cinnamon/Linux Mint lover, but their slow implementation of Wayland, Window Scaling, and certain other annoyances like their split NetworkManager GUI between GNOME's UI and the native NetworkManager UI made me switch.

KDE Plasma, as it’s most Windows-like and it has lots of cool widgets to add to your desktop Windows 7-style.

I’ve also tried Gnome, but I found it confusing and honestly a bit annoying. Not being able to properly minimise like I’m used to just really throws me off. I do think the visual style is well-designed, though.

I’ve tried Cinnamon as well. I thought it looked a bit too cheap for my taste, at least by default on Mint.

Gnome Vanilla is really not that good. But with Extensions and Gnome Tweaks its usable.

Gnome Tweaks enables the minimize button and Extensions enable pretty much everything one could ask for.

I prefer the simplified UI of Gnome to the thousands of options that KDE offers out of the box. But KDE is a really good DE and i used it without problems over a year.

It blows my mind that everyone says KDE is windows-like. I don't think so at all. At least not what came with Parrot OS.

KDE Plasma all the way, on the desktop, the laptops and the two set top boxes.

Xfce, specifically because I like the Chicago95 theme.

I use Cinnamon, it’s not much, but it just works.

I was on Mate back in the day since I did not have good enough computer to upgrade to Cinnamon. Used it for several years to finish Master's thesis. It certainly gets the job done.

Sway

Gnome

For me: Gnome + extensions.

The default Gnome feels way too locked down to me, and I don't like some of the choices. But, with the right extensions "locked down" becomes "simplified enough to get out of your way".

same. also its the only DE i know of thats useable with touchscreens. KDE would work too, buts its too overloaded for my taste and the OSK (On Screen Keyboard) is far inferior to the options of Gnome Extensions.

i wish Cosmic DE would be usable with touchscreens tho.

plasma mobile works on more than just handhelds, and you'll find it in fedora and debian repos (among others, i'm sure).

true, but i didnt like that as much as gnome. its just a personal preference

Yeah, I’ve got a couple extensions as well. I tried out Bazzite and liked some of the changes they made, but wanted something closer to stock Gnome. Ended up just installing Silverblue and adding a few of those extensions back, to taste.

How do you fare with the restrictions of immutable distro? That's feels scary to me, but I'm a control freak.

I actually like the assurance of immutability. The main downside is that there’s just less documentation on how to do things, since it’s a very non-standard configuration for a distro.

It’s also annoying having to reboot every time I layer a new package into the system image, but I try to avoid that as much as possible and haven’t had to do it recently.

Adjusting to Flatpaks has also presented some challenges. In theory, I really like what Flatpaks offer in terms of app-level isolation, but some things are still rough around the edges. I’ve encountered at least one app that didn’t obey the system’s dark mode theming
 Also, they still haven’t quite figured out a good way to handle GPU drivers, so you can run into compatibility issues between the usage driver in the runtime and the kernel driver in the system image.

In my case, I’ve just had to update and restart the application when this happens, but it might cause problems if you try to roll back the OS image after already updating all your runtimes (resulting in a newer userspace driver trying to talk to an outdated kernel driver).

I'm on Mango, and it's amazing for me. It's well documented, as well as extremely flexible. I love it.

i3

With alacritty, qutebrowser, neovim and LibreWolf. I use my custom dmenu-based utilities for things like launching apps, locking (with slock), controlling (ie. postponing :D) redshift and music player and opening bookmarks, links and searches. Thunar is the most DE-like app I use but being comfortable with Bash i use Thunar just for certain tasks like organizing files like photos. For quick text edits, I sometimes prefer Mousepad. For screenshots it's slop+maim.

I don't "rice", I just set some color schemes years ago and use simple wallpaper (which I rarely see.) And keep everything as minimal and out of way as possible.

(I don't care about Wayland unless I'm somehow forced to. I mean, some of my utils depend on X11 for things like clipboard access but I suppose it could be fixed easily nowadays. However X11 works fine for me so if it ain't broken...)

Niri

Lightly customized KDE plasma, it truly is just the best de out there. However when I'm feeling a bit playful and not looking to do actual work or using my laptop without a mouse I do switch over to hyprland sometimes.

KDE (on CachyOS)

sway. I tried hyprland, but it was unable to switch between different maximized windows (monocle layout). There was a way, but it triggered a resize on every window switch, which was slow and annoying. I don't know if it's perhaps been fixed since then.

Been on i3wm for 3 4 years now I guess. Also work with sway on some systems.

you can actually see and use my config

https://codeberg.org/alirezaalavi/dotfiles

I wish I could give multiple upvotes for both posting dots and using Codeberg rather than Github.

Looks good!

Haha thanks <3

Sway, it's fast, pretty, easy to customize, and can do headless displays to stream with Sunshine.

What does headless display mean to stream?

It means that the display I stream doesn't show on a physical stream. When the stream start, it can automatically be set to the resolution and framerate of the client.

This is especially useful when the client has a resolution and/or refresh rate not supported by a connected physical screen. For example, I always used to have vertical black bars on my phone because it is so wide, and horizontal ones on my Surface because it is so square, but not anymore.

It also means I coult setup multi-seat stuff and keep using my pc while someone else is streaming.

hyprland

Stock GNOME. No extensions.

I would almost agree to this response. But there is one single Extension that I think is crucial: Appindicator. Without this things like Nextcloud or Synology Drive cannot be used propperly.

I was leaning to also include copyous. But it is not absolutely mandatory.

People tend to dislike this, but I LOVE gnome. It runs a lil heavy, but damn it's clean, smooth, fast, easy & decluttered.

No dot files, no config, and it's intuitive

I'm using gnome.

Really enjoyed sway but lacked the integration I wanted, KDE before plasma 6 would break all the time and I liked but again lacked integration niri (a scrolling window manager)

Enlightenment DE

Very underrated IMO. It has been a while since I last used it but I recall it was super light and snappy - even compared to other more well-known lightweight alternatives. It was definitely a pleasant experience. Happy to see it still going strong.

Infact it is selected for GSoC under NetBSD for porting to pkgsrc

https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/programs/2026/projects/mifwPqCq

Nice one, thanks for sharing!

Sway, me like simple.

KDE + Wayland, only changes I made were moving the bar to the left side, changing the applications menue icon, and changing the color of breeze dark to pink

KDE, but only with an extension called kröhnkite for auto tiling. To me a manual stacked window management system is almost unusable. As someone who used tiling window managers for years and lots of KDE based applications, and as KDE was one of the first who worked well in Wayland, I thought to give it a shot. I like it and since then (years by now) stayed on KDE.

For reference, I used Gnome 2 on Ubuntu, made the switch to Unity desktop, then Gnome 3 (and I think Gnome 4 too?, don't remember). Then started experimenting with Regolith, auto tiling for Gnome, and tried out real tiling window managers, until I landed on qtile. Then experimented with Xfce, before finally making the switch to KDE (because of Wayland). Rest is history.

i don't like tiling wm, and can't stand seemingly random placement a linux d.e. usually gives (if not just centering everything every time).

i use the kwin script for 'remember window positions' to get behaviour similar to windows. gnome has something similar, too ('smart auto move ng'). so now a window for a program will open right back up the same size and in the same spot next time you run it.

There are multiple different logic how new windows are placed and the existing one re-ordered (or not re-ordered). Some have a logic that make look it random, if you don't know whats going on. Sometimes these behavior can be configured, or even choose from many "layouts" (these behavior and logic are often called layouts) that suits your needs. I actually use different layouts and switch between them depending on what I need. Below is a bit description of different ways how these layouts could function:

A predictable layout is the one that cuts the view in half, uses the first window opened up on the left, and then just tiles the right side, while adding new windows on the right bottom side only. This can be configured in a way that every new open window will replace the right big view, and push all other window one below to the left bottom stack in example. Another predictable one is that it cuts the view in 4 parts, left-top to right-bottom. And if all are filled and you open more windows, then the others are cut in half again when needed. Or if you want, use a spiral, that looks random at first and in my opinion was never useful anyway. And there are more ways how a layout logic could function. Not knowing how looks sometimes random.

kde + wayland on tumbleweed. Wanted to try other things, went for swaywm. NowI found out that krunner and kdeconnect are like 90% of what i need an OS (DE) to do.

Cinnamon

Rare breed mate. U on Mint?

Gnome with the Forge extension for window tiling

Running mangowm on AerynOS.

KDE Plasma with default settings as well.

GNOME. I love the workspace management and simplicity

Cosmic.

Openbox was my favourite, but there's not a really good Wayland alternative yet so I've stuck with KDE for years.

I wanted to try Cosmic so I went to the source with popos and it's really a good time. I haven't used a Deb/Ubuntu base since the Crunchbang days but this is good and it seems there is a Cosmic update pushed through every week.

I’m not using Pop! but I am loving cosmic on both Gentoo and Fedora.

On my potato I’m using sway.

Sway and Gnome

The latter is mostly for other family members. But I like both.

WM: i3, sway, also playing around with dwm

DE: Xfce

I just need basic functionality, and most tiling WMs are fairly similar. i3 vs. Sway is basically the Xorg vs. Wayland question. I like dwm for its absolute minimalism and the fact that you configure it by editing or patching C and recompiling.

Using kde rn because its easy to use.

I will spend some time to get a tiling wm eventually. Minimal resource efficiency as well as brain efficiency is very apealing to me.

Cinnamon. Desktop UI peaked in the Gnome 2/Windows XP era and anything after that is bloat for the sake of bloat.

Might try kde plasma though, if I can make it behave the same.

I loved Gnome 2. Used it way after Gnome 3 came out for work. I'm not sure something like Hyprland is bloat though. Some of this is really minimalist unless you add a ton of stuff.

I'd think you'd use MATE if you love the Gnome 2 era. May I ask why not?

Cinnamon does everything I need it to and I've got it customised to the way I like it so I've not felt a need to switch. MATE's status as a fork of an old version of Gnome (at least at the time I was looking) worries me a bit as well because the legacy codebase may get left behind.

I'm with you on Cinnamon, but I'm anxious for the Wayland support.

I've been a GNOME user ever since I made the switch to Linux. Though, like literally over the last couple of days, I've been DE/WM-hopping.

The first address was Sway, but it felt (kinda) archaic... And while I'm positive that I'd be able to make it work, I wasn't entirely sure if it was worth the effort 😅.

So, not long after, I couldn't bear it anymore and switched to COSMIC. So far, I'm pretty content with it. GNOME required about half a dozen extensions to properly bend to my will. With COSMIC, it pretty much gets there without any external add-ons.

I wish cosmic had proper touchscreen-support like gnome with the touch it extension and custom screen keyboards. also search inside the overview screen. i dont really like the cosmic launcher if there are multiple open windows of the same program.

KDE like a real grown up

I use mainly StumpWM, a tiling window manager which uses concepts very similar to Emacs. For example, one can define key chords, bind keys to lisp functions, and auto-generate input for a program window.

If it isn't available, I use i3, or occasionally GNOME.

StumpWM? You are a masochistic nerd 😂

No no.

  • Manual tiling works far better for me than the automated control in i3/sway. This is because I use some established layouts, for example Emacs Window with Rust code in the right half, in the left either firefox with docs, or a shell running cargo test, or another shell running jiujiutsu commands, or refreshing test files, and so on. And I switch rapidly between these all the time.
  • A tiling WM makes much better use of screen estate, especially on my 40 inch 4K screen, but also on the laptop.
  • I do most of the time programming, writing or reading, and for this, it is ideal to switch views back and forth with a single keypress.
  • I like to focus on one thing at a time, and this is required if I want to work in a nice flow state. For this, StumpWMs ability to switch workspaces fast is great.
  • I found it is great to automate frequent actions with wm-generated input from the wm. Say I am in the browser and want to capture the current URL for a project-specific bookmark list. So, I make s function that goes to the address bar, selects all, copies to clipboard, selects or creates an emacsclient window, finds a file called bookmark.org, pastes the URL there and lets me add a description.

What could also work for me is the tiling style like in GNOME PaperWM or Niri. But I haven't tried it extensively due to GNOME breaking on my last Debian stable upgrade and unwillingness to spend more time on it. And I am more than happy with StumpWM.

An inportant general fact is this: Things that you use all the time, do not necessarily have the same shape and UI as things that one uses once every three months. For the first, terminal interfaces with a lot of hotkeys might be suitable, for the latter, perhaps GUIs with menus.

Cosmic. It's still a little buggy but getting better.

Hyprland, specifically with the end4 illogical impulse desktop.

It's pretty and I really like how functional it is, but some recent updates have changed how some of the config files work requiring changes. It's an inconvenience I'm willing to put up with though.

Yeah, I had to fix my hypr.config or whatever to use new the windows rules format. That was a pain in the ass.

Arch linux + niti + dms, amazing!

GNOME

For fun? Niri + Noctalia.

For actually using the computer efficiently? KDE Plasma.

I've actually gotten so used to the workflow I think I'm more productive on Niri+Nocalia now (especially on my laptop with a smaller screen). That said, when I'm using programs which assume I'm using a traditional window manager (usually games tbh, but sometimes electron apps as well), I do consider that it may be easier to just give in an use Plasma.

Mate 👍

Used it for years back in 2012-2014. Was writing my Master's thesis in LaTeX. Simple and absolutely no issues. It certainly wasn't eye candy back then though.

It still isn't. It doesn't even have fractional scaling

I didn't mind since I couldn't afford better hardware. It certainly got the job done.

Yeah, I think lots of DEs are built with 720p in mind. I switched to 1080p recently and I'm pretty bummed

I have KDE Plasma, Hyprland, and Mango (WM) installed.

Of the three, I use Mango most of the time, and KDE Plasma sometimes. Hyprland, I've kept because most of my config was for it, and I'm still currently porting them to Mango. Most of the dotfiles are in their own areas, though I've mostly piggybacked on Plasma components. One area that I've got some trouble with is program theming. KDE Plasma has its own, Qt has its own (which is different from the KDE Plasma one), and GTK is yet another. I've decided that the best way to deal with it is to make them look as similar as I can, so that whether I'm on Mango, Hyprland, or KDE Plasma, my programs will look the same--except for the presence of window titlebars, which Mango doesn't show, Hyprland shows via a plugin, but KDE Plasma does show.

I used Ubuntu's implementation of Gnome back when I started dabbling with Linux some time ago. I didn't bother theming it. And then I moved to XFCE when that underpowered machine I was using couldn't handle Ubuntu's Gnome without feeling like it's swimming in molasses. XFCE is nice and configurable in contrast, and I didn't have much to complain about. However, I found its configuration back then to be quite troublesome, especially as I tried tweaking my own bars and panels.

I then moved to KDE Plasma when I got my current machine. It was pretty okay out of the box, but coming from a tweaked XFCE, I couldn't stop myself from theming it to my liking. Hyprland was introduced to me mid-2024, and I was thrust head-first into configuring it from scratch, no dotfiles to copy from, or pre-made shells to make my experience easier.

At present, Mango won me over by having a decent vertical scrolling layout, as well as the flexibilty of using other layouts on the fly. While I like Hyprland's level of polish and customizability, and recently have implemented scrolling (both vertical and horizontal), I am staying with Mango if only because I've already done the work porting most of my stuff there.

Cinnamon. It's like a combination of kde and gnome.

I am sorry if my English is bad.

Cinnamon here too. It seems small and fast.

If i have to pick one i'd say River. I have a bunch of tiling compositors configured but find myself coming back to River the most. It feels stable, it's minimal, but still supports the wayland protocols you'd want to be there, and is fairly simple to configure with its shell script config file.

I’m a simple man. Default Gnome on my desktop, i3 on my low end laptop. I don’t even really use the DE-ness of Gnome, I’m just too lazy to bother switching. On my laptop I also don’t even really need i3. kmscon + tmux would probably be fine except for those few times when I have to use a full browser for some stupid logon permissions or QR code jank.

Currently using gnome with lots of extensions. Ive tried many DEs but gnome always feels like home. I also like kde a lot but there something about qt that feels so amateur and unpolished, and I can't get steam to run on kde out of the box, with gnome it just works. Also the times I've used kde I always end up replicating the gnome layout so I just decided to stick with gnome in the long run

Steam failing to run sounds more like a distributuion issue than a DE issue to me

Hyprland, trying to go back to sway.

I wanted to try Sway and couldn't get super+q to open a terminal window. I just installed.something else since no time to learn it that day.

So what's the sway hotkey combo for new terminal? I figured they would be the same.

Sway's default keybind for opening a terminal is super+return (line 68)

    # Start a terminal
    bindsym $mod+Return exec $term

note also that sway uses the foot terminal by default. (line 17)

# Your preferred terminal emulator
set $term foot

You can change these in the config.

It's a good idea to read a bit about a WM from a wiki before use:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Sway
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Sway

KDE Plasma but mainly I use sway.

I use the pop!_os customized version of GNOME currently. I used hyprland for a while until I lost my dots for it due to some PC issues, and I didn't bother setting it back up. I do plan to switch to COSMIC which I quite enjoy, but it's also still missing a lot of stuff I need, so im waiting for that to be fully rolled out

herbstluftwm

Shout out to keynav which has allowed me to start using Waterfox again.

Still on Openbox/Xorg. Inevitable is the switch to wayland, what is the closest equivalent? And if you use it, how is it?

edit: for me, OB's greates strength is having tons of options for manual tiling while still being a stacking window manager. Plus tons of keyboard shortcuts and inbuilt menus.

I hear that river wants to try to sort of become the Xorg of wayland (in the sense of providing a simpler interface to build a window manager upon, without needing the whole compositor)

No, I do want a compositor that would be like Openbox, on wayland.

I think what he's saying is that there might be more options coming for stacking compositors (if they haven't been created already) since the new River framework makes it easier to create them

Instead of downvoting me, maybe you could be more clear about what you want, and not take it out on the messenger if it turns out the exact thing you want doesn't exist lol. Build it yourself i guess.

I'm aware of labwc.

I wonder if people have experience with it, and would like to share it.

It uses OB's theme spec and all other familiar config files afaics, that's good. Almost (? again, asking for experience) a drop-in replacement.

I seem to remember there were one or two other candidates though.

Cinnamon. I tried KDE but I didn't like it. I saw a video where someone customised Cinnamon through settings and extensions so I've done a bit of that.

KDE on Arch, aesthetically pleasing and mostly functional out of the box. There are some startup quirks, but that's likely due to my LUKS setup which I will change with the next re-install. Already tried to fix multiple times, it's too much of a hassle to keep trying to fix an <5 minutes per day issue.

XFCE with Compiz with all the 3D effects enabled lol.

If you want wayland then wayfire is supposed to be the spiritual successor, but it's still technically beta software.

TDE. Solid, familiar, stays out of my way.

Plasma 6.8 dev

running plain gnome on my main machine and xfce on my older one, but might try singularity or cosmic when I get some time

I really want to like Cosmic but there are too many usability papercuts for me at the moment, so Gnome it is.

Cosmic on PC.

KDE Plasma on laptop.

MangoWM (MangoWC formerly) ... started using it when Hyprland didn't have side scrolling like Niri, and Niri only as a scrolling manager and couldn't do the master stack. Mango being the best of both worlds, I riced it really well and stuck with it.

Plasma, with the taskbar on the side, and 15 virtual desktops.

fvwm3 on most systems, wmaker on a few, recently trying out kde for potential wayland migration

I'm running Niri on Debian.

NsCDE on several OSes.

This one is new to me.

i am using KWM with river. I really like KWM, but I am tired with how rapidly the config is changing and needs to be updated to compile KWM updates. I'm thinking of switching to ZRWM since using CLI commands to config seem more stable than writing source code that needs to compile. The only thing I'm not sure about with ZRWM is I use monocle and deck layouts the most with KWM--and I'm not sure if ZRWM supports monocle.

If I don't get to a comfy place where my WM just exists and doesn't need to be updated, I may move to DWL.

I've used sway, hyprland, dwm, niri, mangowc, river-classic and now river with KWM. I'd say dwm and KWM are my favorite, but river-classic was up there (I just didn't have enough layouts set up).

Using a few on different systems. KDE Plasma on one laptop my high end one that is pretty much my main daily machine. I also have Moksha on a Bodhi netbook. I have an ElementaryOS install so that’s running Pantheon. And finally, I have the Gnome / “Cosmic” in Pop - though I’ve yet to see it be much more than just a finely tuned Gnome.

So which is your favorite?

I really don’t have a single favorite. I use them in situations where they’re the most suitable for my needs and my personal preferences. I think overall KDE/Plasma is the most versatile and flexible, customizable and theme-able. Pantheon is simple and polished, though you’ve got to install the extensions and tweaks; I really don’t know what the devs think with having no minimize button. It’s like a weird fetish that they force on all new installs. But once you add the extras, it’s a beautiful and simple interface. Bodhi’s Moksha is very weird but has its own charm. Also customizable beyond what most people even would know what to do with, but the thing I like most about the distro on the whole is it will run on lower end systems and yet still offer the kind of GUI that usually demands better resources. None of the others I’ve tried run as smoothly on equivalent low end hardware. So that’s its biggest advantage.

Like I said, each for their own scenario.

Xfce + labwc is best combo for now

Gnome with a ton of extensions and a Catpuccin theme for gtk apps

DE: none

WM: Sway on my orange pi 5 max and hyprland on my x86_64 PC.

I'm running a headless server with no WM or DE. It's all CLI just like boomers did it with multics and unix. No pretty pictures, no wasted cycles on rendering nonsense. Just pure, unadulterated computation.

i grew up with gnome, switched to plasma because i used a steam deck as my main computer for a few years. im just so used to the workflow in plasma, and while i would really love to switch to hyprland, its just too big of a hassle to set it up and learn everything. luckily i found out about krohnkite, so i can at least have some tiling in plasma, but not in the way hyprland does it. i would love it, if it split the focused window

mangoWM. my workload requires a lot of resources like vivado/vitis. the more resources I have available the better. I've no where near customized my WM (FFS, I'm still using iwctl to configure WiFi), that said it does run great, using about 560 MB on idle.

Still using iwctl for WiFi? You need some help? That should only be for initial setup IIRC.

yes, and I couldn't really care what it was intended to be used for. clearly I could still use it as a WiFi utility posts installation.

As per the arch wiki it says "iwd is a wireless dameon for Linux written by Intel." "The core goal of the project is to optimize resources utilization by not depending on external libraries."

the point of why I'm using it is for that exact reason. it does the same thing every other WiFi GUI/TUI out there. unless there is a vulnerability/security risk of using iwd, I couldn't really care less about the other options, even if that means manually configuring enterprise and public networks.