Any other Windows or Mac users here?
5d 10h ago by lemmy.world/u/early_riser in asklemmy
Lemmy is so Linux-focused and people are surprisingly opinionated about it.
people are surprisingly opinionated about it.
Getting repeatedly burned by soulless multibillion dollar comanies tends to do that to a person.
That, plus this is a FOSS service. You don't come to Lemmy if you don't like FOSS to some extent, so it follows that people would gravitate towards a FOSS OS too.
I'm in the Apple ecosystem, hardware-wise, and pretty happy about it. Not much to discuss, if other people feel differently, that's fine.
My only complaint Hardware wise is all the extra lengths that Apple go to to make sure that things are less upgradable etc.
I’m not defending Apple, but they made a choice. Less repairable, but more durable. Needing repairs less vs. being easier to repair.
Have they succeeded in “needing repairs less”? Arguable. But for the iPhone, few phone last as long as long as you take even minimal care of it.
Also, the vast majority of laptops are not upgradeable, never have been.
Only the desktops have this issue. And for the more “normal” desktops, they are actually upgradeable. At least the last version of them was. Not sure if it will be still when the update it… wouldn’t count on it. Like I said it’s clear Apple made their choice.
A MBP is super easy to open up compared to just about every other shitty piece of plastic held together by clips molded into the case.
All laptops I own are upgradeable. I didn't buy them with that in mind. I just bought most of them cheap and used on eBay. The most recent one I got I upgraded the m.2 WiFi to wifi6 a few years ago. Bumped it from 16 to 32GB of ram. 256Gb Nvme to 1Tb.They even sell 4k panels for them. Though that is a very Advanced upgrade. The only thing I can't upgrade is the CPU and the Apu inside.
All modern apple silicon desktops or laptops have soldered in Ram and proprietary storage. All of them. Unfortunately this seems to be a trend that other manufacturers are looking to follow. The storage is technically kind of upgradable. But you have to jump through massive Hoops to do so compared to any standard computer.
Maintaining a system? Apple has many pieces hardware locked to a system. Going to get a replacement board for your apple silicon laptop? Good luck. If you get lucky it might not be hardware locked. This was one of the major bullshit things that got Louis Rossman on his right to repair campaign specifically.
Durability? Yes Apple Hardware is way more durable than your standard 200 dollar cheap chromebook. But if you look at similarly priced devices. Most of the time they're just as durable. I would actually like apple silicon if it wasn't for all the anti-repair anti-competition lockdown that they performed. If Apple would just provide basic device trees Etc allowing the BSD and Linux communities to build their software for their devices. They would be my preferred Hardware. But they and Qualcomm are notoriously bad about that. Leaving everyone to feel around in the dark reverse engineering things needlessly.
Me too ✌🏻 I like it, the hardware is rock solid and software-wise I try my best not to get too far into the walled garden. It's a good compromise
After the fappening Apple actually started to care about privacy whereas Google just got worse in every aspect. So yeah, I believe you are happy with it. I'll stick to Android/GrapheneOS nonetheless until we eventually get a true alternative.
I agree on the hardware front.
I made the choice to move from windows to Mac for my work-provided laptop and I absolutely love it for track pad alone. I have never used another machine where the track pad worked so well. The movement feels natural in relation to how the cursor moves on the screen and the gestures seem so reasonable for my mind.
I'm always open to suggestions when it comes to better hardware but, right now, I can't see changing away because I like the feel so much.
I think there's plenty of non-Linux people here, you just don't notice them because they have interesting things to talk about instead of their OS testing hobby.
Like how to disable today's forced ai or kernel level anticheats being totes ok
Ey, it's fine to use Windows, no need to insult Linux people though.
You can do some really cool shit with Linux, when it comes to ricing etc. You don't have to like it, but it can be a really cool hobby.
If they're not insulting Linux users, they have to deal with copilot shoving its nose into whatever they're working on.
Like, how many days in a row do I have to dismiss the fucking AI prompt asking me if I want to have my data mangled? I'm not sure the actual answer, I just ignore the fucking banner because I can't be assed anymore. I'm sure there's a setting somewhere, but MicroSlop will move and re-enable it again later so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
How did you end up on Lemmy, a FOSS service, and not understand how people might prefer a FOSS OS? I think it's you who's the strange one here, not Linux users. You're insulting people for choosing FOSS while also choosing FOSS.
interesting things to talk about
I'm here for the Star Trek memes and Dull Men's Club. Interesting things? Pfft!
Of course there are.
It also shouldn't be surprising that something like Lemmy, an open-source project originally aimed at tech geeks and still used by a LOT of tech geeks, is filled with Linux users. Linux is an open-source project used by a lot of tech geeks.
Yeah, we can just STFU about it.
It's more like there's nothing to opine on or take pride in. Source: I use mac for work and I've used windows for decades.
Edit: actually I'm wrong. MacOS was a nothing topic for years but this new UI design is pure hot garbage. So I guess it makes sense to talk shit about that.
MacOS was a nothing topic for years
Maybe I'm showing my age here, but I remember when Macs used to boast about being virus free (because hackers couldn't be bothered to write malware for it).
Haha I am of a similar age and I remember that too. I was more talking about the past 5-8 years. Not a lot has been happening in macOS worth mentioning, until they destroyed the UI recently.
Discontinuing support for older hardware seems to me like it should be a thing worth mentioning but Apple users seem ok with buying new stuff so it isn't seen as a problem.
I think in order to use desktop Linux you have to be comfortable making your computer a hobby. I've tried many distros across 16+ years and I couldn't go for more than a few days without some part of the OS breaking, some app not working properly, or some functionality simply not being available. Depending on your career and lifestyle, some or all of these are solvable if you're willing to put in the effort.
Sometimes I'm willing to put in that effort, but increasingly I just want my computer to be a tool that gets out of the way. I think militant Linux users regard that extra effort as a positive in and of itself, or are willing to put up with it for ideological reasons, and thumbs up to them for that, but they can't grok the fact Linux simply doesn't work for some people. If you need THE MS Office or Adobe, and many many people do, Linux isn't going to work. If you need accessibility, as I do, Linux isn't going to work.
I think the original meaning of "The customer is always right" fits here. If someone says they need something that Linux can't provide, and especially if they've tried what Linux offers and found it unfit for their needs, they need to be taken at face value instead of being gainsaid at every turn.
If you've found that Linux meets your needs, hats off to you. I'm even a bit jealous, but until my needs align with what Linux can provide I can't switch. I'll keep trying Linux here and there just as I have the last 16 years, but I'm not holding out hope that accessibility will improve, and won't be able to switch until it does.
This really isn't trua anymore with immutable kde distros, everything really does just work. You have to relearn some things but that's a fundamental issue with switching to anything, the recent ltt experiment confirms pretty much the only thing that's missing at this point is anticheat and it's the year of the linux desktop. I feel like your stance was valid a few years ago.
Let's talk about my recent exercise in mapping persistent network drives: Windows: Right click in file explorer, select map drive, enter server path, user name password. Check the Reconnect at login checkbox. Click OK.
Linux: Add user to soduers file, sudo make a directory in /mnt, chown of directory to user, sudo install smbclient, create a cedentials file with server user and password, modify fstab file and add mount command to that and refererwnce credential file, well network stack doesent load until after it tries to map the drives on boot so then I added a 60 second wait to wait for the network to come online.
Yes, things are better now when it comes to installing and hardware compatibility, but for the average person the steps I took to map a network drive is not feasible to pull off. Most people just want things to work without going through multiple steps of trial and error
Yes, things are better now when it comes to installing and hardware compatibility, but for the average person the steps I took to map a network drive is not feasible to pull off. Most people just want things to work without going through multiple steps of trial and error
Here's you're problem: the average person has never used a network drive. You aren't an average user.
I'm using Garuda, and have been for several years. 99.9% of the time, things just work. Then few times it doesn't are when I'm trying to do something more advanced, and that's fine. The experience for the average user is pretty much solved, and that's what matters. If you are doing something more advanced, you also know how to figure out how to solve it.
Is it perfect? Of course not. However, I (and I assume you too) am the type of user who modified registries in Windows to get things working how I want. That is far worse of an experience than anything I've had to do in Linux (for the simplicity of what it was doing at least). Sure, MS makes it pretty easy to do some things, but they also make it almost, if not actually, impossible to do others. I was tired of dealing with that and have enjoyed Linux much more.
I didn't like using Linux when I tried it the first few times 10+ years ago. Now, it's pretty good, but you do have to commit to it. You have to learn how it works, just as you had to do for Windows at one point. Just because you forgot about all the shit you dealt with on Windows doesn't mean it didn't exist. You have to come to Linux knowing it's not Windows, and you are not going to know how to do everything. If you come in with the mindset that it should work like Windows then you'll inevitably have a bad time.
Network drives are a legitimate painpoint, luckily kde just got over a mil to work on network drives in particular, this will be a solved problem soon.
i will say using a network drive makes you not an average user though.
Click the script the IT guy gave you. Most end users don't know what a network drive is.
👆 This
It goes back to what I said earlier, that yes you can do what you need to if you're willing to put in the effort. But I don't want to have to build a hammer every time I need to drive in a nail, even if I know how to build that hammer. I want to grab an already working hammer from my toolbox.
I think its no accident that the majority of desktop Linux users are software devs. Using Linux at home in a way serves as job credentials, because you have to be intimately familiar with the OS in a way that Windows and (especially) Mac users don't have to be just to get by.
My latest (and so far longest) streak of daily driving Linux was with Mint. The bluetooth worked perfectly out of the box for the first time... and then never again. My headphones would simply never pair, and my Wacom tablet and xbox controller would constantly connect and disconnect, causing popups every time it did, and no amount of terminal magic seemed to solve the problem. Of course that's not what pushed me back to Windows, as always that honor goes to the lack of a usable screen reader and magnifier.
Linux works great as a server precisely because you're supposed to know what you're doing, but a consumer-facing OS is supposed to be fool proof.
GNOME: Browse to the location in the files app. Drag the folder to the shortcuts list. Done.
This sounds very similar to things that were being said five and ten and fifteen years ago.
militant Linux users
lmao
I know this would be an Microsoft Propaganda post
A lot of that comes down to user error. Either in not managing/understanding expectations or using it on proper hardware. If you buy from a system integrator like system 76 tuxedo etc etc etc. You're going to have a good Hardware experience. If you try using some random old laptop. There's almost always going to be parts of it that don't work or at least don't work well.
The other part is down to use case. If you are deependant on Mac only software and try to transition to windows you are going to have a hard time. It's no different with Linux. Windows has ways of doing things, Mac has ways of doing things. Linux/BSD has many ways of doing things to. If you are not a new user. You're adjusted to a specific ecosystem. Change will take time and effort.
As to your stability problems. The biggest issue I've had in recent years was the upgrade to Wayland. There were issues around getting KDE switched over initially. But it was easily handled and smooth ever since. I have even switched over my entire immediate family and I have far less tech support issues than before. I will say though that post covid and definitely in the last 10 years there has been a dramatic sea change in everything. If you haven't tried it in a while it's definitely worth trying again. Linux is a better alternative than it's ever been depending on your use case.
TIL severe retinal scarring is "user error"
What is your question? I do use Linux at home, and nothing else. But at work, I have to use Windows or macOS if I want a salary. macOS is better than Windows because it's a unix like lunix.
Everytime when I see someone has windows problem you can be sure at least a opinated Lemmy user recommend them to uninstall windows and use Linux instead.
This is not always the best solution.
If the machine is from work or school you can't simply install anything you want.
Maybe the user has other programs/hardware that work only on windows and install Linux would cause more problems. I know you could use wine, virtual machines or other tricks but some stuff don't work there.
Sometimes the "just use linux"-advice is posted as a meme. A non tech savy person would not understand this meme and could feel they are not being taken serious.
Even as a Linux evangelist, I had to switch one of my systems back from Linux to windows because I couldn't get a couple specific games to run on it because it was an old HP business box and hit that lovely trap of the system being too old for the current OS, but the graphics card isn't supported on the couple older OSes I tried. So I installed windows 10 and called it good.
Probably could have kept trying and found something that worked, but at a certain point it's just easier to deal with windows than constantly tinker with a secondary box for my kid who just wants it to work.
I use everything.
Windows 10 still on my main desktop, although there is a Zorin nvme setup inside, just need to make the final change. Got a 3070 rtx a few years ago I barely get to use.
Windows server 2022 for my DNS/pinhole setup
Windows 10 LTSC for my seeding/downloading
Zorin on my main laptop
Zorin on my kids old renewed 12" MacBook air.
Windows 11 on my kids desktop with a local account. (he's my guinea pig)
I just used opencore legacy patcher to put sanoma on a 2012 27" iMac that was meant to be recycled. Just ordered kit to take it apart and upgrade the hdd since it's slow as fuck.
I have bazzite on an old Lenovo gaming laptop
Windows 11 for work
Husband uses genuine MacBook pro from 2016 or so
Truenas scale for my home file server and Plex media. Old secondhand AMD ryzen 7 3700x and as much ram I could find from recycling old devices. 4x 20TB drives I bought refurb in 2024 when I rebuilt it all, had had this thing almost 20 years, just upgrading as needed
Truenas scale (second) for my backups with Veeam, secondhand AMD ryzen 5 4500 and 32G recycled RAM.
Proxmox server for testing fun things.
I love dabbling in everything and keeping old hardware alive. Nearly all my hardware is from clients that needed their devices wiped and recycled. I destroy their data and save what I can for fun/education. Things that are just too old or unreliable or unsupported for businesses are great.
I wipe and reload many I can't use, give them away. I think that's all my stuff.
Linux at home. Linux, macOS, and Windows at work.
oh skooma king
i love windows 3.1 and 95 does that count?
I have an 2025 M4 Pro 16” MacBook Pro, an iPhone, and an Apple Watch. But I also have a 2012 iMac that’s running Fedora
I like both Macs and Linux. I see them both as having their places. macOS is a form of UNIX/BSD after all, so they interoperate particularly well.
Is it considered "part of my identity" because I mention Linux every couple months at work? I'm known as a Linux guy at work and I see nothing shameful about it at all. When alternatives suck and everyone knows it, there's nothing wrong with mentioning a better way here and there. If I wedged it into conversations constantly that would be annoying but I don't.
Agree. Except Arch.
I do understand people making Arch part of their identity. If you are an olympic swimmer swimming naturally is part of your identity
I have used Arch in the past. Installed manually without Archinstall in case you might be wondering. I firmly believe using Arch is not a significant achievement
because it controls everything on your machine?
And your computer is your identity?
Should I get a tattoo that lists my specs?
I would rather not have the mossad on my computer, but its not my identity
I'm an "other" user.
TempleOS? nice, me too
Unfortunately. At least for work-purposes.
I still use Windows 10 for my gaming rig. I only use Linux for servers. Rn the only server I have is my media server; it's running off an old Samsung Galaxy S7 phone with a 2TB microSD card running Slackware.
How did you unlock the bootloader on a Samsung phone?
It was years ago, back when there was a viable workaround to get rid of Knox. Afaik, the S7 was the last phone that had any way to do that.
Mac for personal, Linux for work. Been that way for over 20 years. They tried to force us to switch to new windows machines (we’re a linux shop) and i said i’d quit first. They tried to sell the WSL crap… i showed them how my 8 yr old machine ran circles around their new windows laptop. I’m still running linux. Every ounce of my being hates windows. Mac just works. Linux (for me) just works. Linux can be a bit fiddly at times. But once it’s working, it just works.
I don't have a computer - I just use my phone for Samsung Dex and my tablet (which I think might actually be Linux-based or something. I'm a tech noob).
Otherwise, Windows for work.
Windows and Linux.
There are Windows and Microsoft communities but they aren't very active
I use Linux (though dual boot Windows for Fusion 360 and a lot of Windows at work), but if someone asks me about switching to Linux I don't ram it down their throat. It's good and all but it's really not for everyone, and despite what people on here would have you think it's certainly not as easy to use as Windows. You're much more likely to run into a difficult problem and not know how to fix it though it's changed a bit since you can just get Claude to take a look at things now. Windows can have annoyances but generally you can live with them.
Linux, I think, is for people who are quite technical and people who aren't technical at all (and just need a web browser). For the people inbetween Linux can be a struggle. It's improving incredibly quickly but the out-of-the-box experience is still pretty terrible (looking especially at KDE here).
out-of-the-box experience is still pretty terrible (looking especially at KDE here).
I have to wonder how long ago you used KDE. It has very sane defaults these days, and arguably has since the Plasma 5 days.
It's good and all but it's really not for everyone, and despite what people on here would have you think it's certainly not as easy to use as Windows.
Absolutely. You have to be prepared for things to not work the first time and have basic troubleshooting skills to investigate, even if the answer is simple.
I deal with people who freak the fuck out if their app isn't pinned to their taskbar. I've learned to deal with these people, I would never in a million years talk tech to these people in a serious manner.
I've used all three OS, and I flat out prefer windows. I realize it's a minority opinion here and that's fine. People can use whatever OS works for them and as long as they are happy, good on them.
My PC still runs on Windows 10 and my phone is still Android 16. I just don't care enough to bother changing cause I haven't had any issues with my current setup.
Been a Mac user for 15 or so years. Then hackintosh and then when that died went to various Linux distros for my desktop but I use a M1 MacBook pro for work still and an M3 MacBook Pro for personal use. Tho I’m falling out of love with apple I enjoy the usability of macOS (at least past versions). Really wish Linux had that level of polish.
Which (in your opinion, dear reader) DE’s have the most promise of having the same level or better UX polish as MacOS? It would be a dream to contribute to a mass-usable, intuitive FOSS DE.
I use all 3. Mac and Linux on my personal computers. Strong believer in use the tool that works best for the situation.
Battery life was the saling point for the Mac, software is whatever, I try to avoid all locked in features and software. Prefer Linux due to flexibility. Windows has annoyed me with all the crashes, slow performance, and increasing need to dump shit on us. Only use it personally when a game doesn't work on Linux.
At work, its just windows. I use WSL when I need to do some coding outside of a browser. Most of the time its noticeably slower than it would be on Mac or Linux but not my computer, so its whatever.
Use and support windows systems at work. I'm at a small business that uses some ancient software that is only Windows compatible.
At home am fully switched over to Linux.
I'm basically only on windows these days because I have a windows mixed reality vr headset and I don't know how well that would play with Linux.
Work: windows laptop. It's fine.
Home: dual-boot. More windows time than Linux generally (I'm almost afraid to "admit" that on this forum, ha)
I don't want making my computer function, to be a hobby.
I want to get off Windows but every time I have tried to switch to linux, stupid stuff makes it a pain in the ass. This last time, I tried Zorin. I put chrome on it (not my computer) and it just absolutely refused to run. I spent my whole day off just trying to get chrome to not brick the computer. No dice.This is just one instance of at least 4 or 5 times I have legitimately tried to switch, or tried to switch someone else to Linux.
you had a problem with chrome??? I was on zorin and used chrome. how did you install it? oh wait not your computer. did you have admin rights? I don't think you could install chrome on a windows machine where you were given a user account that was not admin.
I grabbed it from the little app approved store front thing or whatever that Zorin had. I tried a couple different methods and it would install fine but every time it launched, it would hard freeze the system. No other app or anything installed had a problem.
yeah but where you on an admin account? because again windows would have issues installing software from a non admin to? You post sounded like your friend made an account for you.
I did the install from scratch. I'm not here to diagnose why chrome didn't work on an install I did a year ago.
ok sorry. the way you said your friends machine it sounded like your friend was running linux and you where trying it out. did not mean to bug.
get debian, and use librewolf
May I ask why you want to get off Windows? I mean I can imagine a few reasons but I don't like making assumptions
Your assumptions are probably accurate. As an OS, I don't want tracking, AI, fingerprinting, using my data, age verification blah blah blah. As a company, I don't like much of what they stand for, also enabling and promoting many of the things I mentioned above to become industry standard.
Linux CAN be that for me, and it feels like I can make the swap at some point, but every time I try, and with multiple distros, I run into something that just drives me back.
As a company, I don't like much of what they stand for
So what DO you like that they stand for? I don't think anyone can really say a single thing positive about Microslop. Not even one.
I used to work for them. At one point they did have a really good work culture. You felt good about coming to work, paid very competitively and amazing benefits. The work culture also didn't feel antagonistic to customers. There was a huge watershed moment when they started going after a massive DoD contract with the US govt. And pushing SaaS that seemed to indicate the shift to the Microslop of today.
They were never perfect, they were never unicorns and rainbows, but they sure as hell at one point didn't act like the company of today.
Fair, but surely now there is nothing good to say.
stay on windows its just easier than any linux distro,i use windows myself.
also chrome isnt that good with adblockers,so you can use brave if you want.
brave is still chromium. go firefox
brave feels smoother than firefox,also faster on google sites. plus who cares if its chromium? thats what the web is built for anyway
Brave is owned by fascists and sells some personal data.
idc about personal beliefs of a ceo or a corp. if i did i wouldn't use anything bec i would disagree with all of them.
and do you have a source for brave selling personal data? as far as i know thats not true
ublock has trouble with youtube ads on chromium, that's why.
thats why i recommended brave tho. it doesnt need ublock. it has its own adblocker built in,and it does block youtube ads perfectly.
Chrome was the request of the inlaws. Too much change all at once means I'm over there playing tech support. I personally don't use it.
Macs are my daily driver and have been for decades. You'll have to fight me to take mine.
I use Linux for VMs and NUCs and servers. Less than I did a decade ago, but that's only because I have less energy to put into random projects as I get older. Gone are the late-night hackathons until 4am. I support mostly Windows at work.
Yes I use a MacBook to remote into my Linux boxes. Because Apple hardware is just so much better than anything else you can buy, and zsh terminal is fine. I would probably put Linux on it if I could, though to be honest the ergonomics and vertical integration with MacOS is just very good, and I'd have to really consider tradeoffs. Like swapping and memory management on MacOS is just magic on Apple silicon. I have a thinkpad with Debian as my "utility knife" laptop, and it has 8GB more, slower RAM, but my M2 MBP is significantly smoother even on stuff like FreeCAD which it is basically a RAM/swap stress test.
Can you explain what you mean by "ergonomics" when talking about an OS? I'm kinda confused.
Basically the user experience is well thought out, polished, and high quality. The workflows are mostly intuitive for doing basic things. The only exception to this is the lack of repository and package manager. The .dmg drag and drop thing is... honestly kind of jarring.
Ok. I've only used it in terms of like how physically comfortable a thing is, so this makes a lot more sense.
Apple/macOS is my main 'home' for work, creation, and general use. At work, I also deal with Linux a decent amount running a few k8s clusters. At home, I use a Windows gaming machine but literally only use it for gaming.
Oh yeah I'm still using Win10 because tbh I'm too lazy to get into linux
Commodore Basic represent!
Hell yeah! Loading...Ready. Run!
Well Darwin Law applies here too
I went from windows before the millenia to going mac in the aughts to back to windows but im linux now. mac was awesome when they bragged about being larger and more powerful with more ports and was big on the command line and had a server version and such. I honestly should have moved to linux years earlier but I sorta was worried about losing what you get day to day for work and my wife. My wife is still on windows. I have been trying to get her to change but she won't and im finally. that tears it you can come along when you want but im not going to be keeping up with windows stuff anymore unless its work related.
I use a Mac. It’s like Linux (UNIX actually, OS X is based on NextStep which was based on UNIX) but with corporate backing. It’s as user friendly as Windows. And the AI has an off switch. Siri can be disabled.
I like it. I feel like Apple is the last real computer company left that makes their own software. I don’t know how “real” the company is, though. The iPhone is straight up jank. Always hallucinating text on the keyboard after you type it. Changing what you say to appease some unseen overlord. But I don’t want to use a phone made by an advertising company either. That’s dystopian AF, topped only by the legions who will defend it. But I’m not sure it’s entirely worse.
I use all three. Hopping between them made me appreciate the effort that went into commercial systems a lot more, from UX to compatibility to forward thinking.
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20040513-00/?p=39353
Same here. Have been using all three for 3+ decades. Have also dabbled in BeOS, Amiga OS, the other unixes, CP/M, and other forgotten platforms.
I find most of the complaints about windows to be way overblown, company policies aside. If you invest a lttle time setting up your environment properly, using things Sophia script, then you can have a very functional, stable, non-telemerty broadcasting Windows system.
I’ve used Macs for 20 years (fuck I’m old)
I did get a Linux PC last year though and it’s great too!
I'm late to the thread but I'm a freak who has all three.
Grew up on Windows, went full Linux in my teens, got a M1 MacBook Air last year and use it daily.
My current computer lineup now is a M1 MacBook Air running macOS, and a 2015 MacBook Air 11" dualbooting Debian 13 (GNOME) and Windows 10
They both get used daily or near daily. I am stupidly productive on the M1 MBA, especially with a portable USB-C monitor. The 2015 MBA is this beat up old thing that is stupidly portable and therefore convenient. It's so cute.
No
I remember Windows — it was ok for its time I guess, but I didn't like it as much as AmigaOS.
Used both, never will again unless forced to.
I'm still a windows user, but that's mostly just because I have a bunch of work programs on my computer that I was supposed to get rid of when they gave me my crappy work laptop, and I'm worried that if I switch over I won't be able to reinstall them and I'll have to work on the crappy laptop for the rest of my career.
You post doesn’t reference any OSes I don’t use.
At home, I've mostly switched stuff out to Linux that I use as "servers", but I've had to go back and use Windows on one or two bc I just can't figure out Jellyfin or Plex on Linux. I've been an IT admin of mostly windows stuff for years and a casual Linux user at home. Network drive don't work well on Linux, idc who you are, it's just more "natural" on Windows.
However, I smh back too Windows 10 build 1909 to omit some telemetry and prompts about setting up backup, Cortana, and anything else that uses to interrupt my applications running bc of constant forced updates and reboots. I've done down and disabled so much, my base Windows idling was ~100 processes running (down from ~150) and 2GB RAM! I trust SMB and UNC for the NAS and media players, that Linux couldn't cleanly do for me.
I want something that is not only easy to set up, but easy to troubleshoot (for me) while also being "secure". Sorry to any hard core Linux CLI fans, but, I don't have the patience to waste time at home learning it. That "NAS" running Windows is also blocked from the outside world so nothing reports back to MS on the off-chance I missed something.
I do, however, take time at work learning tools and systems in my "test" envs at work so I can eventually utilize at home, vs trying to learn things at home that's useful for work (like in my home lab).
both yeah, windows for VR and mac for work
Windows / Android here
iPad. It works, and it’s convenient. If people love or hate certain OSs, that’s fine.
My main, high spec audio production laptop is running Windows, my work device is a Mac, I have a Chromebook for when I'm working out, and I have an old Dell running Linux mint which has become my main beater laptop. I guess you can say I'm ambidextrous.
My work laptop is running Win11
Had been an Apple customer since the early 80s. Switched to Linux some 7 or 8 years ago.
I don't consider myself opinionated about tools (computer or otherwise). I just know what tool works best for me for the task at hand. For years, it used to be Mac/Apple. it is no longer the case.
That's interesting. I'm in a similar boat but have had more trouble kicking the Mac habit I guess. Something keeps drawing me back.
I guess at the moment, it's a combination of my significant investment in GUI scripting (Automator, AppleScript, etc.) and a love of ARM processors which Apple still seems to do best? But there's also a familiarity/old-habits-die-hard aspect to it I'm sure.
Habits were my biggest source of resistance. The day I decided to deal with those, the rest was (almost) painless.
The trigger was my desire to get back some control over my data (and over my computer) and to get back some privacy... while also being able to easily fix/upgrade my hardware instead of having to purchase a new one when it's fallen out of warranty.
Bash + scripting replaced Automator for my use case. The one thing I still do miss from macOS is... Spotlight. There is a lot of ways to search on Linux but the simplicity, efficiency and speed of Spotlight... it's just <3
I’m a windows and Mac user.
And Linux too, but mostly for servers only.
Mac at home, Mac/Linux at work. Though I suppose Linux has its foot in the door at home also via the Steam Deck. I haven't spent too much time on its desktop though. Mostly, I do stuff on a MB Air at home and a Mac mini at work.
I seldom use Windows anymore. I have an old gaming PC that ran it, but the Steam Deck is generally more powerful, so it's been resting idle for a while now. There are a few people at work who use Windows, and I occasionally have to do some IT stuff for them on those machines and I hate it!
Personal and work laptops are Macs. I’m also playing around with a Linux Mini PC as a potential future homelab but I’m already thinking why not get a used Mac mini that will be less of a bother.
Planning to get a small gaming PC with a ready to use Linux on it though, like the Steam Machine. Windows can suck my ass.
I use macOS as my daily driver and Windows on my dedicated gaming PC. I have a server running Linux.
I've used Linux as my main desktop OS in the past and liked it (certainly more than Windows), but I just don't enjoy tinkering with my computer in my free time. I spend 8 hours a day messing with computers for work. I don't want to do it when I'm not working too.
I definitely see the value in having full control over every part of the OS, but it also means it takes more effort. Especially since I'm the kind of person who, given the option, will configure every little detail to my liking. With Linux that's basically a never ending project.
I have to deal with windows all day at work. Azure, servers, desktops.
I do it all from a Linux machine and remote in.
I use Linux because I don't want to have to deal with all the windows crap and I want a computer to just work.
In my experience, Linux is the predictable, easy to use and less troublesome option. There is nothing to tinker with, it just works. Predictably.
I've self hosted for a while but never used linux desktop. Just this week I just set up dual boot on my laptop with the intention of using it 90% Linux 10% windows 10. Its been great so far & I'm enjoying the learning curve finding alternatives to what I'm used to (some of which I'm sure I can't run on Linux - Traktor & several other more obscure things). Lots to learn but good fun & the lack of AI horseshit plus the OS not spying feels liberating.
The very first software I installed (Brave) recommended to use terminal which didn't bother me in the slightest but it may be intimidating/offputting for mainstream.
I use windows 11 at work & at a friends who needed help. It's absolutely loathsome, everytime I open anything there's stupid irritating notifications & popups getting in the way when it tries to “help". Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows in our house
Ok so I don’t have any MAC machines and my primary daily driver for the past 10yrs has been Linux.
I’ve only got one Windows 10 MS Surface Pro laptop and I have to say that my Windows 10 Pro is unlike everyone else’s because I know exactly what to turn off and what to rename safely.
I prefer Linux but I don’t evangelise. Use what gets the job done the quickest.
No, I have been using both in the mists of antiquity, but then I saw the light. I also joined in the Church of Flying Spaghetti Monster. Now my life is full.
I have gone back and forth between linux and windows over the years. I suspect my laptop would have a better battery life under windows but i'm too lazy to switch again. Hmmm I don't think I count as the Windows user you're looking for actually, but I wanted to share my position
I am also the only person on Lemmt who thinks Windows 11 is good
I still have one machine that runs Windows, its mostly for games, because there's a lot of setup that I don't wanna re do.
But my uni laptop runs mint, and I like my workflow a lot more. Mostly due to the file manager being a lot better, and some foss stuff that doesn't exist for windows. I still need to remote into my windows machine for CAD because that software doesn't support Linux anymore...
And my couch machine runs Linux too, but mostly because its old and slow, and doesn't run anything but Firefox and Spotify...
I'll switch to linux when it has something remotely comparable to AutoHotkey. Until then, I happily remain on windows. (Autokey and Python are not remotely comparable.)
CrossMacro exists, granted I had to weave through a bunch of other macro softwares to land on this one as I was looking for something similar to Logitech’s G-Hub macro system.
I mostly use Linux but on a slight occasion, I'm a Windows user.
I've got Windows 10 on a few machines at home, strictly out of inertia. LTSC packages too, so no plans to change over yet.
Everything I've acquired since then gets some flavor of Linux, though.
I use windows because I have no desire, time, or reason to put effort into switching to linux. Whenever I need a computer I am mostly asked to work with ms office anyway. If I will ever need to use computers more I might make the change, but so far I use my broken ass windows computer.
I have 3 Win11 PC's and a Win11 laptop. My Plex server runs on Win11 as well. Rock solid.
i am a windows user ,and i like windows 11.
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