I used to listen to this historian a very famous one but I forget his name. And made the point of saying one of those two were away getting the knocker slobbered. I really want to say it was either in southern LA or southern Georgia. I brought it up in history in late college and figured it was a decent question. But holy christ did that woman lay down some hellfire on me. But where is actual history going to say the light fluffy fluf version or where they actually were once evidence is produced? Why not just say they were else where at a den of iniquity?