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Am i the only one who feels like it's the same handful of users posting and commenting on lemmy?

1y 8mon ago by lemmy.world/u/GrammarPolice in asklemmy

At least on the communities i follow. Every so often I come across a thread where i recognize most of the users there even in the big communities with over 30k members and I haven't even been on lemmy that long.

It's a smaller neighborhood here dude.

Yep! We smol.

IllegallySmol

But so fierce.

Hey, it's just the cold water.

"I was in the pool!"

"I'm a grower not a shower"...
"It’s not the size of the boat, it’s the motion of the ocean"...

I see that now

cozy. lets just think of It as cozy, why don't we... ahhh, much better!

Hey watch your hand!

There's definitely regulars I recognize, but still plenty more I don't.

Yeah, there are a handful of extremely prolific posters who are awesome and keep the whole thing fresh. Then there are a couple dozen that I see at least a few times a week if not more. After that, I see a mix of familiar and unfamiliar faces.since I scroll All.

But even reddit had a similar pattern on a larger scale proportionate to the userbase. There were like a dozen prolific posters (or bots) whose threads got the most engagement even when they were reposts of someone else'searlier post.

I like to think of it like movies and tv, where a few prolific actors and actresses are everywhere and in things that get a lot of attention, but there are also a ton of people also participating but without as much attention because they are in fewer popular things.

If someone browses hot or new they will absolutely see the same few people the majority of the time since those are the most active people. Browse Active and there are a lot more that arrived a few hours after the post was made.

Part of it is also because you will notice the people you recognize, but scroll past the people that you don't.

Having to check over usernames from the moderation side, I notice a lot more variety than I'd think about otherwise

There's dozens of us. Dozens.

haha! oh wow!

in my case, there's people i tend to always see the same comment-style and so their name sticks.

depending on the sub, that could be good or bad.

Because it is dawg.

Total users are like ballpark 1 million, and most don't post much or at all -- e.g the 1-9-90 rule.

By comparison Reddit and twitter are the most trafficed sites on the internet

‘Had to look up the 1-9-90 rule

Important concept when it comes to communities like Reddit and Lemmy, and something to keep in mind when talking about online marketing and propaganda.

A handful of posters, relatively speaking, essentially shape global consensus, and many know that, so plan accordingly.

Yes, plan accordingly as a reader, AND as a poster!

Smaller community, so the power users (like myself, FlyingSquid, The Picard Maneuver and others) will undoubtedly be more prevalent than the many, many other users that barely post at all.

I do in fact recognize all those users including you

But do you recognize me!?

I don't remember you, but i remember that post about google maps

I think it’s good that you don’t remember me. I always obey the rules of good grammar.

I literally scrolled through looking for your comment.

I see you everywhere and I enjoy it. Thanks for contributing to all the conversations. O7

Yeah, you are very recognisable, but people like me, who lurk most of the time, comment maybe once a month.

Not very memorable.

Non respect

some of those are also the same kind of power tripping neckbeard discord mods we fled from by leaving reddit. (fragile ego ban incoming in 3...2...1...)

Why is it whenever I see a comment like this, the modlog always shows the person bitching about the mods having several sexist/racist/homophobic/misinformative comments that have been removed...? 🤔

because that's the excuse mods use to get rid of differing viewpoints. Anything they disagree with is suddenly 'bigotry'.

You know we can see what you posted that was removed and not just the reason the mods gave, right?

And most of it was rooted in facts

"COVID vaccinations were effective, but not safe." - ichbinjasokreativ

Also the claim that immigrant workers are "uneducated rapists," and weird nonsense comparing trans people and how "they mutilate their genitals" to circumcizing a baby.

"Facts."

All of this is accurate information. Covid vaccines were widely adopted at the same time as spikes in lung related hospitalization, in covid-negative people. Refugees were advertised to us in europe as being the well-educated middle class of their respective countries, which turned out to be a lie and the offiacial, government issued statistics on violent crime and spicifically sexual crimes showed massive increase since we let millions of them into our country. Also, the fact that mtf trans people need to insert stretching devices to prevent their mutilation wound from closing is true as well. Reality isn't always comfortable.

You wanna mod instead, go do it.

I don't understand what neck beard means. I see it used, but I still can't really figure out what it means. The other thing I don't understand is incel, not that you used that word but it's another one that I see used frequently that I don't understand. Are the two related? Also, I'm old In case you couldn't tell

From Wikipedia:

"Neckbeard" is a pejorative term and stereotype for an adult man or teenage boy who exhibits characteristics such as social awkwardness, underachievement, or pretentiousness.

And incels are described as:

An online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually, typically associated with views that are hostile toward women and men who are sexually active.

Certainly not related communities but could conceivably overlap. Not surprising that a lot of Internet trolls fall into one of those categories.

Thank you. Yeah, i guess i could have googled. Makes more sense to me now.

Neckbeards: having "facial" hair that basically only covers the neck. It's the idea that these guys who don't have the facial hair to grow a full beard have poor hygiene.

Incel: Involuntary Celibate, shortened to incel. Someone who can't get laid for one reason or another. The propblem being the people who generally self-identity as incel, who are usually toxic and sexist.

These aren't necessarily linked, but incels are usually the type to have such poor hygiene as to have a neckbeard.

Ohhhh. Thank you!

I thought neckbeard referred to a hipster beard. That makes more sense now.

Weirdly, sex has changed in the last couple of decades. When i was young (back in my day 🤦) women could get laid anytime they wanted and men had to put in a little effort. So when i hear involuntarily celibate, i just think 'don't be a dick. You're gonna have to work a little for it,' but i guess they're not getting any because they're misogynistic?

Lots of people just can't or don't get laid for plenty of reasons, shyness or some kind of disinterest does not an incel make. An incel is mostly synonymous with what you probably think of when you hear basement dweller, but inverse the elitism and with an added sexual element. extreme misogyny, extreme entitlement towards women, extreme resentment towards the sexually active, occasionally fixated on the idea of masculinity, and overwhelming self hatred.

the same kind of power tripping neckbeard discord mods

I'll never understand the intense and visceral anger some people on the internet have towards facial hair. Also really leaning into the 4chan-esque Everyone Online Is Dudes trope.

Because a neck beard isn't facial hair. It's neck hair. Neckbeards are usually indications of poor hygiene rather than some appreciation of facial hair

I can't believe I'm defending neckbeards but...hey if Ringo Starr can rock the neckbeard, it's not all bad!

And I'm sure loads of people with neckbeards have overall poor grooming and hygiene, but I'm also sure plenty have good hygiene.

Lol, Ringo does not look great in that photo and it's partly due to the neck beard.

Ringo is a king, my friend ✌🏻

I have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not usually an internet commentor, but I try to chip in on Lemmy sometimes. I think most people just treat it like the rest of social media today, where the smart idea is to just lurk

I guess it makes sense that the majority of the userbase is just lurkers

It's the rules.

Tres interresant

HEY, no frenchies allowed.

Putain 🙄

It’s called a community. If Reddit doesn’t seem like this anymore, it’s because half those people are actually AI.

I can’t speak to Lemmy specifically but my Reddit years were ages 15-30. I think I got my fill of arguing on the internet then.

I write a lot of comments on Lemmy that I end up deleting before posting because I just don’t want the hassle of arguing with someone about it who is being deliberately obtuse or arguing in bad faith.

That’s not an indictment of Lemmy specifically, but I think my lack of interest in those arguments comes with age and I suspect my story isn’t unique, the demographics will line up for a lot of Lemmy users.

Small town vibes where you actually recognize people at the grocery store kinda thing.

This is one of the things I appreciate about the Fediverse. Even if we were to grow large, too, this small-town vibe can be maintained simply by using the instance federation tools. Reddit doesn't really give you that same degree of convenience.

Honestly, that's one of the cool parts of old internet (forums, chatrooms, etc.) is getting to know people, you get to know the community 😊

Be the change you want to see.

Got it. Creating bot accounts now

Like the others said, the ratio of posters/lurkers on most social media sites is 10/90, and i think that lemmy is on the better, more active side of things. in a 30k community that means that you will see about 300 people commenting regularly, and 30 of them will be very active.

i also like the smaller scope here, fewer comments mean that my opinion will be engaged with more.

I rarely commented on reddit, because one little comment in a swarm of 2500 will not even be noticed. It's different here, and i wrote over 400 comments this year! i maxed out at about 100 on reddit because my comments wouldn't even be noticed most of the time if i didn't filter by new.

Be the shitpost you want to see in the world.

That's very much possible.

That's why I try to be as nice as I can on here.

There are very few times when I initially joined Lemmy where, I admit, I was a bit shitty towards some users (old Reddit habits). This can get you banned, or blocked, or you can build a reputation pretty quickly. And since we're not a lot, that can limit your interactions quite a bit. So I changed my attitude pretty quick. And frankly it's been much more enjoyable this way since.

Reddit did things to us all. You couldn't like be nice to someone bc you would get your ass handed to you. EVERY comment had to be so defensive, and primarily what worked was snark. Here... is different, most of the time (and when it's not, we can block and move on:-).

Hard agree. Lemmy feels like a town hall. A few important people providing updates on reality and we engage in discussions based on those topics. Honestly. As long as it doesn’t get corporate or super weird I’m okay with that setup. It feels a lot more like a community this way. Whereas Reddit felt like a stadium packed with people. You can shout. And no one knows where it came from.

That's a great analogy. Spot on.

A few important people providing updates on reality

The problem is if those people get burned out for carrying a sub-Lemmy by themselves.

This is a good way to think about it. I've also been trying my hand at being a bit nicer to tankies. Oops... I mean communists.

They'll come around, eventually. (Tankies I mean)

I’ve also been trying my hand at being a bit nicer to tankies. Oops… I mean communists.

So, I'm finding things reversed, I spent most of my time on reddit going at it with idiot conservatives, just blasting through their talking points and not being polite at all.

Tankies are different because they ... it's not selfishness, it's not just seeing themselves as the ultimate victim of "evil libruls!", they really believe the world would be better under their fairy tale. It's even different from a lot of religious nutjobs I've met, who can't wait for their God to come back and burn everyone who didn't appreciate how awesome they specifically were, like their dad who worked at the CIA doing Kung-Fu.

Fortunately the tankies have weak arguments, the best of which is "China #1 now!!!".

I'll just come out and say it: there is an enormous difference between a communist and a "tanky". For one, only one of those actually believes in communism, and for another one of them is capable of rational discussion without resorting to the "your (sic) stoopid (sp), nuh uh YOU are!" schtick. I have found it more protective of my sanity to block the other type.

Hmm I don't know which communists you're debating on here but there are quite a few who i can say have made me reconsider my position enough times. I don't know whether that's because of how good they are at debating or how inherently strong their points are but i would be inclined to assume the latter. Maybe you're just arguing with the blabbermouthed "cAPitALism Bad" folks

Some are just 'west bad! China good!', the last one was actually trying but I'd read Das capital and simply felt base Marxism was hopelessly outdated as a darwinism era construct social model, obsoleted by game theory and other more modern behavioral frameworks.

I'm a moderate centrist on most issues, I think we need more social support systems to counter balance the power of corporations and the rich, I just understand a powerful government isn't a panacea, you're just shifting the power and therefore corruption to a different body.

Have you read Consequences of Capitalism by Noam Chomsky and Marv Waterstone?

No, I'm sure chomsky would be great.

I don't disagree with the criticism that we have far too unregulated capitalism, we need to go way back the other way.

My issue is the stupid, faith-based, communism will solve everything, even though it never has before.

Capitalism is corruption by the rich, communism devolves into corruption by the powerful, always.

In the past the people only had freedom when the king and the nobles checked each other in power, which is why the founders created checks and balances. Now the king has been replaced by the government while the nobility are the rich and corporations.

If both are balanced against each other (which has happened a few times in the past) then we have increased freedoms, often because they have to lobby the people in their struggle with each other.

When they join forces, we have fascism, which is when things are the worst. That's where we're going now with our current system. That's a problem.

The book does discuss a bunch of these topics, especially the history between capital business interests and the US government.

I think communism gets too muddy with everyone's different idea of what it is, especially do to all the different countries that have 'tried communism' to various degrees of success. I think socialism is more tangible to talk about. Changing the structure of businesses to a democratic organization between the workers, where the profit they generate goes to where is democraticly decided (such as fair wages vs reinvestment into the business). Changing the social organization of society would be revolutionary, as it at odds with the profit motive of capital interests

I'm far more open to movement in that direction as a counter balance to concentrated power. Not that it can't concentrate that way (ambition + charisma finds a way), but you need something.

It's the blind 'communists' who operate on pure faith that everything we tried before will work this time, in complete defiance of human nature.

Interesting to hear

I get snarkier than I should sometimes when I'm really frustrated with someone, but I try to be mindful of it and nip it in the bud when I can.

I almost never comment on anything. I imagine most users are like me.

Yes, I do see the same names popping up all the time.

That's honestly crazy to me. What's the appeal of lurking?

Not the person you asked but another lurker. Social interaction is hard, even posting this I'm having second thoughts about it, but I still like to feel like a member of the community.

Congratulations to you on interacting! I agree with everything you said.

I'm certainly not one of the lemmy celebrities, but I've got nearly 900 comments on lemmy where I doubt I had 100 on Reddit. Not going back to check.

Lemmy is a just nicer place to comment than Reddit: smaller audience, kinder communities, much less intimidating. I don't consider there to be any pressure to make posts or to comment, but if you do, I doubt you'll regret it.

Either way, I personally am happy to have you here.

Welcome to the community, fam!

My published comments are probably about 20% of comments I start. I just give up most of the time because it wasn’t important or I can’t word something how I like in the moment

If I notice that I am spending too much time trying to cover all the bases so someone can't nitpick or acktually my reply I just give up and hit cancel. I appreciate an entertaining comment thread, what bug the shit out of me are people that reply to a comment with an obscure edge case or who are just pedantic for the sake of being pedantic.

Sometimes what you were going to comment is already there, you updoot and move along.

To learn...

Just happy to observe and take in people's ideas and views

If you're satisfied then that's enough i guess. 2 comments in 1 year is crazy

Can confirm, browse Lemmy daily but almost never comment.

The ratio of commenter/poster to lurker is always pretty lopsided. I also never read user names.

The trick is not to read the usernames. I imagine myself surrounded by millions of mostly sensible people!

I post more on Lemmy since I think people will actually read what I wrote. I used to post a lot on Reddit too, but that was MANY years ago.

However one of the big reasons I post is to hopefully get the conversation started. I figure with zero comments someone is less likely to post. With one stupid comment, someone might respond.

Did you the guy from that maymay was like the coolest guy in the world? He was very important in educating about sustainable farming practices. His death was a real tragedy.

edit: Sorry, I didn't realize how long the gif went. I love the movie, but the gif kind of undermines your point in situ, I think. I feel nothing but positive things about the content of your comment.

Thank you for your contributions to the communities!

Yeah, that's what you get with smaller communities, you tend to see the same people over and over.

And I kind of like it. We get to know who is worth reading and who isn't, for the frequent posters at least.

I used to be active on one of my country's most popular forums, if ranked by daily visits. Self-help Q&A style. Apart from me, there were pretty much only three users contributing about 90% of the content. One of them being the only mod. It took me years to figure out, from the timing and the writing style of the posts, that this mod also poses nearly all of the questions and gives all of the first answers too, using a new single-use sock puppet each time.
At the start of this year, it devolved into plain attention whoring and it was really sad, so I left.

After the reddit exodus I started creating memes for the first time and posting them on Lemmy. I've learned that it's harder to be funny than I thought. Also a lot of time/effort and I have actually important things in my life that I focus on. Reposting was also kinda fun but what's the point really

Real talk ☝️

Yeah, it can be time consuming for sure

Kinda yeah. BUT my comment to lurk ratio is still less than I did on Reddit. So even my few contributions are still more than I ever really did on Reddit.

more not less, isn't it?

I suppose. But on Reddit, I wouldn't even bother to comment on a comment. So the sense of community is nice. Feels more like old forums or a familiar but lively discord.

I don’t see that as a problem personally

A boon, really.

Does anyone recognize me?! I need validation for my useless contributions. Valor and accolades!

I don't see many users from the nsfw instance

Well it's my porn account, and when my main user's instance was seized by the Chinese or whatever, I thought I'd just stick with this. I have no shame now, it's a little liberating.

Well congrats to you on your ummm... uhhh...

It is what it is

Mark Robinson, is that you?

The majority of individuals on platforms like Lemmy—and social media more broadly—engage almost exclusively as passive consumers. Their involvement often begins and ends with the simple act of upvoting or downvoting content. This limited interaction speaks volumes about the nature of digital engagement, where consuming information or entertainment takes precedence over meaningful interaction or contribution. The absence of deeper engagement is not a failing of the platform itself but a reflection of broader societal tendencies.

People, in general, tend toward passivity, a trait that extends beyond online spaces and into areas like civic participation. In the United States, for example, voter turnout remains notoriously low. People express their dissatisfaction with the status quo, they crave change, and they criticize institutions, yet they shy away from taking the minimal steps required to enact that change, often hiding behind a hand-waving comment involving the words "systemic," "structure," and/or "institutions," a transparent way of excusing their unwillingness to actually act. As though they themselves are not parts of those systems, structures, and institutions. The same individuals who will upvote or downvote content online without a second thought are often the ones who abstain from voting in elections, an "upvote/downvote" that directly impact their lives.

What is even more concerning is that this passivity is not merely a result of laziness or apathy, but something ingrained and encouraged by modern society. Our institutions—whether educational, political, or corporate—tend to value compliance over initiative. Decision-making, once seen as a marker of personal agency and responsibility, is increasingly viewed as a burden. People have been conditioned to prefer being told what to do rather than take responsibility for their choices.

If a decision goes wrong, there's an inherent comfort in being able to place blame on someone else. This social conditioning makes being passive, fading into the wallpaper, not only acceptable but desirable for many. And yet, these same people will often feel deeply dissatisfied with their lives. But, rather than do something about it, they continue to be helpless, wishing someone would decide for them to improve their lives and then forcing them to do it.

While it's easy to express frustration with the passive nature of online participants, it is also, sadly, understandable. They are products of a society that rewards inaction more than action, where engagement is often reduced to the simplest and least effortful gestures. These platforms reflect the broader societal trend toward disengagement from real, consequential decision-making, reinforcing and reflecting a vicious cycle of passive impotence while they wait for someone or something to fix things for them.

I'm commenting to boost engagement!

Yes. I've been posting to subs around here too. I like it cause everybody will probably see your post and you'll get engagement from real people. We also have common interests on here that things are pretty interesting.

Be the change you want to see. Post and comment. Start a sub.

That's more difficult than it would seem. Especially since the niche stuff i would be interested in fostering is... well... niche. And lemmy isn't that large. YET!

One dedicated person is sometimes all it takes to Kickstart a community. Every lemmy comm or their subreddit ancestors started the same way

The way I do it, is not to stress about keeping up a posting schedule. I just keep posting interesting stuff I find in the community and eventually more people gather. It's how I started /r/piracy

One person can suffer from "shouting into the void". Finding at least one other regularly poster helps a lot

What interest is it?

Have a look at newcommunities@lemmy.world for list of existing active communities

fedigrow@lemm.ee for people who make communities grow

Mostly just anime specific communities and other hobbies. Thanks for the info though. Maybe I'll get around to making a community

anime@ani.social us usually fit for discussions about specific animes

Feel free, yesterday I discovered we had simracing@lemmy.ml , so sometimes it's just there, but unknown

Might i say that you're always doing a good job of promoting these communities as well. Kudos to you!

Happy to help !

Lemmy is still far from being another reddit. So it is definitely normal to see the same active users. For example, I see blaze alot.

I think everybody sees blaze a lot lol

I see you a lot too!

FlyingSquid is our mrbabyman.

It's a village vibe, grab onto the grapevine

Reddit is worse but they use puppet accounts so you can't easily tell.

/TinfoilHat

We're looking sat you PugJesus! 😎

I like it. It feels more genuine

not a bot at least

I use both reddit and lemmy and for the most part, I'll see similar or the same articles shared/posted on both platforms. I don't mind, it actually makes me feel like one day Lemmy might grow enough to the point where I use reddit less and less.

using multiple platforms I see the same users from time to time but I never really cared about who's posting or commenting

I have no idea what you're talking about, says the chump who has a series of precisely 103 formulaic knife reviews posted here.

Want to know about a really weird knife? Go check out what a tecpatl is.

tecpatl

Those Aztec weapons are awesome. We need more movies taking place in pre-Columbian times.

Roll-call for the lurkers! (If u want, no pressure)

I recognize most of the users there even in the big communities with over 30k members

Communities with 30k members could really do with pruning the completely inactive ones. It's not like there's any commercial reasons to pretend that places are busier than they actually are.

I disagree. There is nothing to be gained by removing people from a group. You can't predict when they might suddenly become active and by removing them you're abrogating their ability to participate.

thoughtful. my issue here is while a community is nascent, isnt building maintaining an honest reflection of the community important?

I have joined a few tiny locally communities based on one post/comment. I may never return and the community traffic is irregular.

in a situation like that I can see a mod pruning me away for zero comments in a year. however that is a form of censorship. so its back to the default of mods run their communities as they wish and, if you disagree find/create another community or instance.

thanks for the thoughful comment.

It's a trade-off, I guess. Admittedly, there's not much benefit the user (though they could be warned via email if their account is going to be de-activated). There is however a benefit to the community, in that it can provide more reliable data to see if it's trending in popularity (a 100 extra users isn't significant if it thinks it has 30k users, but it moves the needle if that number is at a more realistic level).

Shouldn't popularity be based on activity, not membership though?

It's a useful metric. Maybe it's the better one, but personally I'd like to see good data from both.

Lurkers need to subscribe for the content to appear in their Subscribed feed. Kicking them out may simply result in them rejoining again. It would be a constant struggle against that.

Plus, if such purges occur routinely, then what about a major poster who takes a break, even if for like a year (let's say they have a baby)? Actively getting rid of lurkers sends a signal that they are not welcomed. Especially if in the future Lemmy adds the ability for mods to have to approve join requests.

Whereas simply using "monthly active users" avoids all of that. Do as you please with any of your communities - in which case it would be helpful for the sake of transparency to literally add it to the rules (those who don't participate will eventually get purged) - but I thought I would list out some of these issues, in case it helped!:-)

I've stopped referring to community sizes - especially when there hasn't been a post for a year. Instead, monthly active users is where it's at:-).

absolutely. careful pruning and caretaking is how you nurture good communities. excellent comment.

Yes. Don’t look at usernames.

I'm just here so I don't get fined.

Agreed; and Lemmy communites require not only seeding, but tending by a dedicated poster. There are plenty of dead places where someone created the community, maybe made a post or two, then never posted again.

There's one user that seems to be everywhere and it's probably the same user everyone is thinking of right now lol.

I'm also surprised I come across other "agents" on here more frequently than I would expect.

There are more popular people that hang out and comment often in the main communities, then there are people who pass by. I know on Reddit I've seen certain people pop up frequently in certain communities. It's a smaller platform so you see the popular ones more often but it's not that unusual.

Nope, it is.

In a way it's kinda cool though. Feels more like a community.

Hello cousin! Wanna go bowling?

Only if you tell me what your name means

It's based on the Swedish chef from the Muppets

Basically I have a mustache, love to eat and cook on my spare time, but my food rarely makes sense (everyone thinks it tastes good tho)

I was hoping that was the reference 😂

Commenting not so much, but posting is almost exclusively done by a regular few. Reddit was already like that, but Lemmy is infinitely smaller so it becomes obviously apparent.

I find it kind of creepy. And, ultimately, because of the legacy of things like power(mad) mods, disappointing. Excessive participation leads to possessiveness and all that

On the other hand, someone has to get the ball rolling so that other people join, it's like being the first one on the dancefloor.

Power tripping is indeed bad, and should be reported on yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Well I mean, be the change you want to see then, post more. Other than that, you really won't find any online communities without the occasional power hungry mods, that's just the sad reality that power corrupts.

does that mean i'm famous?! MUM I'M FAMOUS

You've been very busy talking to several of my puppet accounts.

There are prolific posters and some bots that post nearly half of the content that gets popular on a particular day. Commentors I think there's a healthy mix of regulars and users I don't recognize.

I block the bots when they show up. One whole community stopped showing on my feed when I did that.

There are entire instances that are nothing but Reddit repost bots.

Yuck. Thankfully I'm not seeing too may yet on my several instances. If you care to share publicly or in DM, so I can block them, I would be so grateful. Thanks either way.

I just checked my blocked instances. zerobytes.monster is the only one I know for sure. Couple of others I'm not sure why I blocked. Most of them are to filter out languages I don't read from the All view. Possibly lemmit.online.

Tyvm. Leaving notifications so I can have a look tomorrow.

Ye, and I'm mostly fine with it (I just wish this place had more stuff that wasn't necessarily political, like "interests" type of stuff like comicbooks. We have some, and thankfully Linux is a big one, but I just wish there was more!)

Don't saw much in English, but in French yes it looks like we are 3 or 4 users

Ouais...Camus est omniprésent haha

I'd say there is a handful of most active users, and plenty of those who chime in to say something once in a while.

Adding in my chime.

No there's like four of us

Five!

I don't know you!

With such a user pool you'd think I'd make someone laugh

Lol

thanks. don't I know you ?

I disagree, you just notice them more

Am I lemmy famous yet?

😞

I notice a lot of the same people in most of the popular posts. I guess it's because the quantity of people that usually comment vs voting or just reading post is pretty low, so you'll start to recognize them everywhere

It makes me wonder if people recognize me from other posts I comment on!

Reddit was much larger, but it was the same and noticeable when you were active enough.

My rule of thumb was, if 100 people see a post, 10% vote on it, 1% comment on it.

There's also the fact that most active users that also comment regularly, don't browse the hot page but catch the posts earlier. So there will always be names that show up more often than others, that have already said what's going to be said.

On Lemmy there's a lot of instances that are kind of radical and have a vast interest in spreading their radical ideology in other instances, so they'll show up as well on a regular depending on the topic.

I gotta admit that I didn't start noticing regular users yet, only the trolls that I tag.

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I comment a lot more often than I post. Tho I don't know if people recognize me, since I'm more active on the ich_iel side of Lemmy.

I try and post, but I feel like I'm always slow to the uptake and people already say the things I have to say. But I do make sure I vote as much as I can.

Same, I typically only comment if I have something new to add to the conversation. That being said, I probably comment more on lemmy then I used to on reddit simply because with a this smaller community there is more of a chance that what I want to share has not already been said.

Am I the only one who absolutely despises people asking "Am I the only one who..." about anything? God it's always something mundane that any idiot could dream up too. There are 8 billion people currently on the planet and who knows how many before us. No, whatever it is, no matter what, you are not the only one who anything. Ever.

I'm not sure it's literal, more of a "I feel this way, and I don't want to assume others do, yet I have to ask has anyone else...?"

There are many ways to say it. Starting with "am I the only one..." feels like a pretentious passive selfishness. Like people who never learn proper English to put the other person first when listing them and yourself. Not "me and my friend" but rather "my friend and I."

Like people who never learn proper English to put the other person first when listing them and yourself.

Was that intentional or am I just reading too far into it?

womp womp

everyone reading this should introduce lemmy to at least 1 cool person in their life. thats what it needs.

I tried multiple times. They give me dirty looks and grief about all the political extremist content here. We who know how to block it tend to forget, but for a newcomer it's definitely off-putting. And yes X is that way these days too, but people already know it and don't visit it for the first time, so it gets grandfathered in.

We have some work to do before we will go mainstream.

Several instances block hexbear and lemmygrad, that can be a starting point

Yes but the only one I've ever seen that blocks all of the big 3 is lemmy.cafe. And even that does not block posts that advocate for violence - e.g. an example from literally yesterday, and this one from a memes community on Lemmy.world, from a user on sopuli.xyz.

Note that I am not advocating for removal of such content, only relating how in my personal experience, suggesting the Fediverse to normies has never once turned out any other way than badly. Granted, hexbear.net for its severity and lemmy.ml for its large userbase are probably 99.9% of the issue, but especially until after the election I have no plans to tell people about Lemmy anymore. After that, if lemmy.cafe still has Lemmy.ml removed, I will probably tell people about that one as an entry point.

Which isn't all on its own going to push the Fediverse into the mainstream, until we do more cleanup to make normal people feel welcomed rather than scared to be here.

If they follow through and block .world and .ee, then they can really get a handle of the extremism.

What is the issue with lemm.ee? Is it members or communities?

That works too. Like some people prefer Arch btw, and that's wonderful. But... mainstream normies aren't likely to want that. Anyway, lemm.ee is already awesome and exists:-).

I think they mean you would see more extreme people if you block those two servers.

Problem is they miss out on all the other content as well

Real talk

Yep, maybe it would benefit from more advertisement but I decided to not recommend it until I experience it for some time. It took me a week or two to realize that I don't like moderation at lemmy-world for example, I would definitely recommend choosing other instances, and then, it takes time to figure out which ones are worth recommending. Some are extremist far-left/far-right, some are at risk of shutting down if admin gets bored and decides to stop paying for hosting from his personal money.

No but I don’t think that’s a bad thing.

No.

I can't believe this guy, we're not all bots!

I'm a bot.

I understand what he's saying, I've seen the same usernames respond to different threads before.

It's a smaller community, you're going to see the same names, stop making it seem like a conspiracy!

Gotta appreciate the dedication here. Well played.

Ahh! Social contact!!! Kill it with fire!!!

Aaaaand /end scene.
Break everyone, that was great. Time for lunch!

Speak for yourself.

I can’t believe this guy, we’re not all bots!

I hate when people assume everyone who disagrees with them are bots!

Most people are probably pretty passive, so yeah, I think there's a subset of posters who are highly visible. But even over at Hacker News, where there's a much larger audience commenting, I recognize specific names because something they said in the past got my attention and I start piecing together their personality a bit at a time.

Do you identify as being part of this class?

I comment quite a lot and post relatively often, so i do think i am one of the handful of users I'm referring to. Whether my contributions make any difference is what i don't know

'Make any difference' in what sense?

I do recall an exchange where you gracefully bowed out of a discussion with another commented. I appreciated seeing that

What i mean by "make any difference" is whether specific discussions or communities would be any different if i hadn't contributed. I'm also happy that you appreciate my concessions

Narrator: That night, GrammarPolice dreamt of a world in which they had not commented in any communities...

For me, the difference to reddit is less the participation/diversity in individual discussions. Rather, that lively debates only happen in some prominent subs. That is the one thing I miss here when comparing lemmy to reddit. On reddit, you can look for some niche hobby or some random computer game and chances are that you'll find an active community.

Yep, that's the one thing i miss about Reddit that isn't here on lemmy. Oh r/sudoku how much i miss thee

I didn't know this community existed until now. I'll check it out

I do not have the time to post / comment usually.

Ironically, I don't see any of the regular users I see in every community on this thread.

I've seen you before

What helps me is having the perspective that people change from moment to moment, and we don't see enough moments in a row to pick out a pattern generally. Even if I see the same names, it helps to treat them with new eyes everytime. Also makes it easier to catch someone on a bad day but then have a nice conversation the next.

Everyone on lemmy is a bot except you.

The reason for that is Lemmy Social Score, aka karma. Most of the people on the internet are looking for a validation from online randos and this prevents them from posting unpopular points of view. Hide score from the users and you will see way more posts and comments.

I dont notice it a whole lot mainly cos i dont really care who im talking to tbh. I do wonder if my username stands out tho?

It does, if only because of the font.

Hello! :D

There's a certain group of users I tend to come across here regularly. I post a lot myself too but I also have a habit of making new account about once a year so that not all my messages are from one user. I doubt many would remember me.

Interesting, I actually do the opposite. I still have the same username as on Reddit to keep my person whole but I'm not sure why it matters. I'm even careful to not give too much info because of my choice.

I had a stalker ex-girlfriend who made me paranoid. Ever since, I’ve assumed I’m compromised after about a year, and that’s when I create a new account to start from scratch and lose the tail. I could probably make a significant amount of money by selling all those abandoned accounts with tons of karma and a legitimate comment history.

I remember you

Yeah, because I attempted to correct your grammar.

Policing the Grammar Police eh

We had this discussion already

Lol I don’t usually look at usernames, and when I do it’s almost always to block someone

I pop in every month or so. I'll see ya around!

Lemmy may be small, but it's cozy!

no way

Without a doubt

The fediverse makes communities feel even smaller since even widely connected nodes have instances they aren't networked with, so even a massive userbase can feel like a small neighborhood, because as an individual user, that's what you're going to see with your account pegged to any given instance.

In the community I post in and read the most, I certainly recognize almost every poster. But in all communities, I recognize the most prolific of posters, but few others.

No I haven't seen it

Do you also happen to have MPD?

Hey, GrammarPolice! Nice to see you again today! Take care, see you later!

I don't pay much attention to user names so I haven't noticed

That's how social media like this works. It was the same on Reddit but the user base was larger so it would be a little more difficult to notice. A very small percentage of users actually post and since we're already a pretty small community you'll notice the same people more easily.

there are dozens of us

I'm everywhere!

I don't post nearly as much as I would like, because I post some stream related stuff in my own community on lemmy and don't know want to come off as someone who is trying to advertise all the time. I have been reported for that posting to my own community, which... ya know. I get it, nobody cares about yet another streamer dude, but it is a bit intimidating almost.

If it's any consolation, i checked out your stuff, and while i don't really play TTRPG's i know a couple of people who do, so I'll be sure to recommend your stuff to them.

Present.

Yep. Lemmy isn't that big and it is generally the case that an online space is like an iceberg, with only some of the users seen a lot.

Like friends!

I have no idea why you are talking about

guess I'm not famous here :(

Yes. I think that's notmal, no? Some people have more time than others, and care more intensely about some topics.

Others are bots and paid shills too, just trying to earn a living.

Lemmy.world is defederated from the major Marxist instances, so you might want to join a different instance for a fresh look. Lemmy in general is small enough to be dominated easily, what helps this is finding a good instance and treating said instance like a community with different tags, rather than treating communities like subreddits.

I have an account on sh.itjust.works that i rarely use. Then again, do i want to see posts from Marxists, especially the ones defederated from .world?

Sh.itjust.works is also defederated. If you're a liberal, then you probably don't care for Marxism and Lemmy.world is going to be fine, the mods are anti-Marxism as well. You'll just run into the same issue of having a few posters dominate is all.

IIRC, sh.itjust.works refederated with hexbear several months ago. I just don't think the userbase engages in a lot of those communities.

Then again, I browse by All New pretty frequently, and I've never seen a hexbear post that way that I can recall. So idk.

I thought hexbear was marxist. Oh well i guess I'll stick to seeing the same users

Hexbear is Marxist, yes, and is defederated with sh.itjust.works and lemmy.world.

Does defederation mean I only can't make any posts or comments to that instance. Because i can still view and seemingly join hexbear communities on my sh.itjust.works alt.

Interesting, when are the latest posts in those communitues?

movies@hexbear.net has a post as early as 2 days ago

Huh, I haven't seen any sh.itjust.works comments on Hexbear, and sh.itjust.works is an anti-marxist instance as well. Interesting, could be a weird federation thing.

Yeah i probably can't comment. Who knows, I haven't tried, but i can view posts alright

The ownership class will tremble before a communist revolution! We have nothing to lose but our chains! <Bolshevik chorus swells>

Nah