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Lemmy is so good right now for no particular reason

2y 11mon ago by lemmy.world/u/snek in showerthoughts

It's not the kids, not the lurkers, not the mods... y'all just nice people. Lemmy's got a good vibe going... or at least enough windows that we can close if the vibe gets shit.

I think it's just survivorship bias, kinda like mastodon. The people inclined to come here are probably anti-corporate, and sick of current social media's bullshit.

I think the barrier to entry also helps a bit. The folks willing to put up with the rough edges that Lemmy has are also likely willing to participate with the intent of making Lemmy a success rather than just "hangers on" as it were. With a 1600% growth in "active" user population, there are definitely a ton of lurkers, yet. Once it becomes more approachable, we'll see if the community feeling that Lemmy has begins to tarnish and fade as the volume of interaction and content rises.

I have been thinking this over the past week on reddit every time I see a "Lemmy/Kbin needs to sort out X, Y and Z otherwise it's going to fail massively." or "Lemmy/Kbin is impossibly hard to use/sign up for". Usually with CAPITAL LETTERS and emojis.

Like... ok. I don't think you'll be missed with that attitude. At least for the time being.

I read Haiku (OS) has no future recently and I think a similar thing is happening here.

Do we want to "have a future" or do we just want to be a cool place doing cool shit for ourselves?

Yeah "having a future" is always under the lens of "marketable/corporate profits" anyway. Some people don't understand that sometimes, humans just want to build nice things because they want to!

If a person if truly interested in moving to a place with better discourse, they'll make the effort. If not, they should stay on Reddit.

To be fair, I had some of those complaints with the instances initially being linked. It clicked when RIF linked to Lemmy.World in its final update message. It didn't have dumbass hoops to go through, just a straight forward email, username, password, you're in system like the first few things I was seeing. That and many people were over explaining it and just confusing the hell out of people.

I was thinking the same, especially after seeing several posts "demanding" Lemmy to change this and change that.

I mean, that's not to say there's no room for improvements, but if the first thing some people do when going to a new platform is wanting changes to meet their personal way of doing things, instead to try and adapt first to how the platform works and learn from it, in my opinion it means those people are not really interested in being here and make lemmy succeed, they're just following the "flavor of the month" and won't last long here anyway.

I think the fediverse being not so intuitive might be a very good thing actually, it can act as a sort of filter so it doesn't succumb to the masses ruining everything, hopefully.

Sometimes I worry I might be being too snobby by thinking it's a good thing there's a small barrier to entry here, but the quality of the discourse is SO much better than Reddit it's hard to argue with the results.

Totally agree, it's amazing how many people can be discouraged by a small bump over the road. Kinda like how free mobile games have millions of downloads but games that are like, a dollar, are lucky if hit a thousand (and the gap in quality is astounding most of the time).

The barrier isnt that high in my opinion at least. Its just signing up to any instance in lemmy and thats it. I choose shitjustworks cuz they seemed level headed and i heard some nasty rumors about some of the other bigger lemmy instances so that was another factor on it i guess.

I'll admit I like having a pretty interface to interact with so I hesitated to make my account until I found Connect for Lemmy. Looks nice and easy to get used to

I’m excited about the fact that people who are anti-corporate usually are the same people that will moderate and build community for free just because they want to be a part of something bigger than themselves. If all content creators and moderators find their home here Reddit will only have takers and lurkers left!

I know I’m being naive but I’m enjoying my little dream of utopia 😄

I'm just here because of Reddit dick move, not that I hate all companies, the transition was quite nice that is to projects like https://wefwef.appand the upcoming Sync for Lemmy!

Just deleted my reddit account. This is now my new scrolling home... lol

Same. Goodness I love this. It's so peaceful.

Thank you.

Me too!

I'm going to leave mine up as a sort of testament to eleven years of my life. My last comment is, and will continue to be unless something drastic changes, some argument I was having with somebody about how to fix housing shortages, like the one in California.

17 days ago as of now. Weird feeling.

I deleted every single comment and post on the seven or so accounts I was able to remember passwords for, and then deleted the accounts. That also meant I got to see about ten years worth of comments and posts. There are some phases of life I'd rather not be preserved for posterity's sake.

Deleted my 9-year account yesterday and never looked back. Reddit has become so toxic these past few weeks and Lemmy has been such a breath of fresh air.

Yep me too also deleted all posts & comments. Lets hope thry don't restore them though

Same, I used redact to delete my post and comment history and then deleted my 12 year old account.

Same, I used redact to delete my post and comment history and then deleted my 12 year old account.

Personally, and I am bias, I think everyone here is nice and chill because everyone who actually dropped Reddit are principled enough to not just say they hate a change and then do nothing about it.

Yep, exactly. The people that want a better Internet, my kinda people.

Every time you drive down Reddit's market value, an angel gets its wings

I think you’re spot on. Loving this new home. Here’s to a bright future in the Fediverse.

Not for any particular reason, but for a variety of reasons that work together to make it even better. I have listed just a few of them. Feel free to add to the list as you see fit.

  • No king of the hill.
  • No hidden corporate interests.
  • No karma system.
  • Rejection of toxicity. The flow of conversation is civil and has a good vibe.
  • The Federation functions as an engine of accountability.
  • A bunch of people who actively contribute to making this a good place.
  • A vocal community that actually determines what content is important.
  • The initial difficulty to make sense of it all (call it a "barrier to entry" if you will) acts as a natural deterrent to those who are less engaged.
  • Lurkers who sign up quickly feel comfortable posting.
  • The ability to sign up for a particular instance and leave if for some reason you find it's going in a direction you do not agree with. Lemmy's decentralized nature saves the day.
  • The influx of refugees includes experienced people with a lot of knowledge to make this an even better place.
  • The prospect of a quick release of reputable third-party apps. Since these developers bring solid knowledge from previous developments, their new Lemmy apps will immediately translate into a smoother user experience.

I am looking forward to great days ahead.

Don't forget the free ice cream when you signed up this week.

...you guys did get the free ice cream, right? It was on the sign up page and everything?

I only got a browser cookie.

I didn't, proof that spez own lemmy too

do you have any youtube video that can explain fediverse, lemmy, etc so far the explanation video i have found is already old and not that clear for me

I think the image in the Getting started post was pretty good. Think of it as islands with connections in between. No one owns it all, but moderation within the island makes is approachable and a nice place to hangout.

What's wrong with Hank and the gang, I tell ya hwhat?

Personally I'm against that as it can allow controversial content to look the same as universally supported content.

There are instances that disable downvotes. https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instanceshas a field saying if an instance has them enabled or not.

MORE reasons to enjoy the federated aspect. I am ALL for each instance having their own rules and protocol. I'm not a fan of removing the down voting but the fact that it is something that can be chosen by a group feels really good to me.

why would you want that? out of interest?

It isn’t for no reason other than that. Granted, that is a reason. However, without a clear ratio of upvotes to downvotes, there’s no differentiating between good vs bad. YouTube removed their dislike button, but you can still see how many views a video has. If a video has 1m views but like 3k likes, you can see a ratio there. On here, there’s no ‘views’ per comment. So a use case would be that, say I posted something objectively false that supported a narrative. If others come along and support the same narrative and upvoted it, that post would look relatively credible. Downvotes allows for democratic running of social media. Which is what Reddit once was, and what lemmy is trying to be.

I know it’s a shit thing to say, but if your posts always get downvoted to oblivion, it’s probably moreso you that’s got a skewed outlook vs everyone else. (Not you as in you but you as in the general person)

Username checks out

I can't speak for everyone. I've been lurking for the past couple weeks and just signed up yesterday. The prevailing attitude I've noticed is that people realize just how much of a toxic hog lagoon reddit has become, and are glad to participate in a community that isn't. It's nice to be somewhere that isn't full of bots and doesn't coddle nazis.

I also think it helps that most of the onboarding literature is frontloaded with "this is how federation works" instead of jumping right in to "here's how you sign up and use lemmy." Effectively scares off the reading-averse.

If considering that to be a plus makes me an elitist, I'm ok with that.

It’s nice to be somewhere that isn’t full of bots and doesn’t coddle nazis

Depends on instance...

My last one wouldn't defederate from a shitshow instance full of transphobia, threats of violence, and basically anything else you'd see on 4chan.

Apparently all that was just a "difference of opinions" so my old instance said it was fine.

The problematic instance also had a lot of posts shitting on this one for defederating them, so I just signed up a new account here.

I think that's the best part of Lemmy, it's easy to just drop an instance and find another that aligns more with what you want out of it.

A decade from now if the biggest instance pulls a spez, everyone would just move to a new instance

This is really such a great example for why Fediverse and FOSS in general are the superior and much healthier way for society's social media interactions to go. Hopefully, some day in the near future, unprofitable social media monoliths like Meta, Twitter and Reddit will be so blatantly exploiting of their user base that even normies migrate to free software alternatives and the era of ultra-capitalist mega-corporations in social media encouraging hate and toxicity will finally be over.

Depends on instance…

Fair enough. And like you said, if an instance becomes toxic enough, no one will want to federate with them, and users will switch from instances that do to instances that don't.

“Lemmy. For those who read good.”

I read that in Lemmy's voice

RIP big man

toxic hog lagoon

bandnames@lemmy.world

Lemmy kinda sucks for me right now. Laggy, buggy, awkward.... I love it. Looking forward to being part of its growth and development.

If people complain about the stability they were clearly not around for the early days of Reddit. It was flakey as hell.

Reddit was down all the time during the digg migration

I mean while that may be true, reddit is still providing a benchmark. old.reddit still works on desktop and mobile, so unlike reddit when it was new, lemmy has competiton.

Before Reddit there was digg and the users left for Reddit because digg was the one pulling shenanigans back then. Reddit definitely had competition even back then.

My friend use 3 or 4 apps at the same time. It's been working for me

I think it’s partly a selection effect of who bothered to come here. On the positive end, scrolling All is more likely to show things relevant to me I wouldn’t have found.

On the negative end there are few comments to interact wjth

One time, when runescape did a supermassive bot ban, people began complaining that once crowded areas of the game felt eerily empty now that only real people were there.

Not to say reddit is all bots, but my experience with Lemmy so far has been that it’s less crowded but the people here feel very sincere. Not a terrible thing. Still have more scrolling and reading to do than I have time to do it, and the quality seems even better.

supermassive bot ban

The Muse cover that no-one expected

There's a happy medium... where, new people coming in will start to post too much content, but engagement will happen quite often. Where most of the trolls and angry people will still be on reddit and places yonder.

and we'll pass right by it and become the 800lb gorilla.

This moment, right now, is the golden era. Savor it. A Million monkeys hammering out Shakespeare are eyeing the gates, the only thing holding them back is the fear of the word federation.

Wow… I think this monkey hammered out some Shakespeare.

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times.

There is an advantage to that though, on Reddit by the time a post reached my front page it was several hours old and had so many comments it wasn’t worth me commenting on. On here people are much more likely to actually see my comments

I think it’s partly a selection effect of who bothered to come here. On the positive end, scrolling All is more likely to show things relevant to me I wouldn’t have found.

On the negative end there are few comments to interact wjth

On this platform I'm much more likely to actually type out a comment, even when there are a just a couple (or none!). I feel like people will actually read it.

I read this!

the “active” sorting helps a ton, on reddit if you were late to a post and had something to say you were lucky if anyone ever switched to “new” comments or it was a random person years later replying to you

prob cuz everyone who's still on reddit has the shit vibe

I asked the people there some stuff and I got downvoted for everything I said and then I said something and they said unironically: whats wrong with being selfish? That made me a bit angry

There's plenty of shit fringe lunatics here already also.

Heavily weilding that hammer and sickle mentality that they keep telling themselves is mainstream.

Wouldn't be the same without em lol. As long as they are not the majority!

Lol there are political extremists or all kinds but I sure learned about a few new ones. I for one am avoiding all that nonsense for my own sanity.

I mean the lack of ads DOES help though.

It also feels faster when loading, though slower when you enter a post or save a comment.

Oh, this is actually what I clicked and not a baseball post

Realistically, this is one of the reasons Lemmy is so good right now. The masses generally don't put up with alpha software. Honestly, I like it this way. Improvements are good, but there's something about seeing something grow and develop

I know fuck all about coding and software but THIS IS THE ONE. It feels really neat being nestled in the foundation of something that's somehow already cozy. Only visiting that other site to mark which sub FORUMS might migrate over here

The real trick is getting BACK to the baseball post

Now how to get back to the basball post...

Don't worry. When it's time, it'll find you.

Realistically, this is one of the reasons Lemmy is so good right now. The masses generally don't put up with alpha software. Honestly, I like it this way. Improvements are good, but there's something about seeing something grow and develop

The irony of your comment posting twice 😂

With a 4 minute difference between each comment.

¯\(ツ)

I just discovered you can just refresh on those and it'll sort out the thread. Up until now, I'd thought I was just misclicking every time haha

In Italy we call it "mountain path behavior": just like in our mountain paths, as long as it is few people you meet you behave cordially and in a friendly manner, but it changes when the number of people goes up.

Reddit is too popular and has too much group think, too many of the same types of comments that will get a lot karma, and too many comments that will just be ignored.

NEW is a garbage dump or a pile of duplicates. So why comment on a new post? It will never go anywhere. HOT is already full of comments, so your comment will just be lost.

Agreed. I felt like I lurked reddit a lot because I felt like my thought was already found wherever I went unless I was the first one to comment. It's nice to see a comment section that is growing but not thousands of other thoughts already in it within an hour or so.

Do upvotes and downvotes work the same way here? If so, I fear that communities may become echo chambers too, in time.

In a post and comment, yes. However your up vote vs down vote counts are not stored on your profile. It reduces the game-ification of the interactions.

It also depends where you're reading from. Mastodon doesn't sort at all, Kbin sorts differently from Lemmy, and one Lemmy instance might differ from the next. Even vote counts might differ between servers.

In the end, the user experience here will be much more individual than on Reddit. What is the top post for you might not be the top post for me. :)

I'm already noticing tons of comments getting down voted for seemingly just because people disagree so human nature makes a proper discussion difficult

They don't have the same power over here. Especially on kbin where they pretty much equal "thank you for posting" and that's about it. Boosting is where you become the algorithm and say "I think others need to see this!"

Agreed. On reddit each community has one way it thinks and screw you if you don't have the same opinion on something. People here are more civil and willing to have a discussion over disagreements.

I just hope the alt right doesn’t latch on - but w/ this being the Fediverse we can at least use reason & spin them off in their own little corner.. for better or worse. (Better for us & worse for them)

I don’t know what else is the answer though - they either drag us down w/ them or we rise above it & leave them to wallow in their messed up world views.

If this turns into an Odysee then this will be a very sad place built w/ good intentions.

The alt right already knows about the fediverse and has instances out there. But because this place was built with marginalized people in mind, it's easy to make them go away, on an individual level as well as an instance level.

So what happens is they pretty quickly get stuck in their own little corner unable able to interact with the rest of us. I honestly think removing all that negativity and hatred is what keeps this place a generally friendly and welcoming place.

I haven't really looked at Odysee. I feel like I've seen some Linux Youtubers mention that they post videos there too. What's bad about it?

The reason is federation. People actually happen to be pretty good at holding each other accountable and self-regulating when there isn't a central authority deciding what is and isn't acceptable. Bad actors naturally gravitate toward the instances that welcome them, and then the rest of us defederate from those instances to maintain the peace. Those bad instances then stagnate or fizzle out from the inactivity.

On centralized social media, what stays and goes isn't dictated by the community but a handful of people at the top, and troublemakers are often given a bigger platform than they would have had otherwise.

Mastadon is a lot bigger and older than Lemmy is, and yet it still has the same vibe as this place.

So instances choose which instances to federate with? Does this mean that if my account is on lemmy.world that I’m seeing a selection of what that instance’s owners choose?

Other way around most of the time. Instances choose who to defederate with. If you view all posts instead of local You’ll see posts across the fediverse so long as the instance owner hasn’t defederated. Defederation is also a pretty nuclear option so it’s generally not taken lightly.

This is public information btw: https://lemmy.world/instances

Platforms are fun in the beginning because everybody has a voice. This nurtures a lot of creativity and energy. However, as ad revenue starts to flow, advertisers demand that the platform banish fringe opinions and undesirable voices (the magic keyword is brand safety). As a result moderation ramps up, and kills the creativity and energy that made it fun and interesting.

This is why Lemmy works (for now).

So we got 10 years for the cycle to repeat if lucky?

I'm fine with that lol

Might even have an elder Scrolls by then

Shut up! (Respectfully).... Don't give me hope 🤣

It could be different since it’s decentralized

Banning fascists is always a good thing however and fringe elements that promote fascists. You cannot tolerate the intolerable.

Who decides if someone is a fascist or not? That person will have a lot of power in theirs hands, and sooner or later they will abuse it.

The collective community has the power to defederate or move to another instance if you disagree with the rules in place

You mean like how Elon Musk owns Twitter now?

I know what you mean, it feels like we're all on an adventure together to discover what the new front page of the internet will be!

Pretty awesome to be part of something new and growing.

It feels somehow nostalgic and exciting. Makes it lot easier to forget Reddit.

absolutely!

I guess you could say the particular reason Lemmy is so good right now is the friends we made along the way

This thread has the right vibe, I appreciate everyone here. I hope you are all moderators that can maintain your communities as we see in here.

Please come with me at BestOf@kbin.social too. I want all of you there! We need some wholesome contributors, even if it's just a downvote.

100%

All I can picture for lemmy users right now is an excited dog at a dog park that is just loving life and wants to say high to every other dog and is wagging his tail so hard that his whole ass is wagging.

Lol ngl, it's a little like that. I haven't been excited about a new social thing on the internet in a long while.

It reminds me of internet forums of the days of yore that are long gone. People answering each other's questions. No need for moderators to have rules like, "don't call each other names" blah blah blah. It's kind of funny, but you know, the Internet had a dark age when everyone was nicer to each other. Lemmy brings that kind of social interaction back to the fore. In another stream, someone disagreed with me and did it nicely and I learned something. Give me more of THIS. And give me less of people replying with "this"

this

Exactly!

So this

Browsing forums as a 12 year old and finding the piracy forums was quite an eye opening experience. Such friendly fellows also.

For me is the (for now) lack of repost. Those fuckers plagued my home page for years.

Yeah, the absence of a slew of editorialized content, obviously being pushed by larger groups, is kinda nice. Like I think I've interacted with more people on here in the past 24 than I would in a week over there

What would the incentive to repost something be? There is no karma to be earned.

Astroturfing for the purpose of changing public opinion? Although wouldn't really be worth it considering the limited size of lemmy at the moment

I wouldn't even go that deep, I'd just compare it to people that hear someone tell a joke in class silently and then proceed to tell that very same joke, but loudly.

Although it's a completely different thing, I am seeing a lot of repeated comments. But yeah, the lack of reposts so far is nice.

Lemmy reminds me of how Reddit felt between 2008 ~ 2013ish.

There seems to be a disproportionate number of longtime Reddit users defecting to Lemmy and I think that the self-selecting nature of Lemmites(?) is why there are such great vibes here.

Reddit is dead. Long live Lemmy!

Ahhhhhh. This feels better. shakes all the reddit off

It's nice people, the culture of Lemmy, and the amount of users

On reddit, if you wanted to chime in on a thread that was popular enough to reach your feed, it was probably too late to make a comment that would stand out, since the people who comment on it early would get the upvotes, reach the top, and drown out your input.

Here at least, the comment sections, number of users, and the way "Hot" is sorted allows people to feel like their input matters, rather than just trying to make short quips to farm the most karma. The lack of a karma system or comment/post awards also helps this, as people aren't as incentivized to just farm upvotes.

And of course, the bulk of Lemmy's platform as of right now is built on people who left Reddit because they cared about their communities, and had strong opinions on how an online forum ought to be fairly run, leaving the more apathetic users behind. Naturally, this means most of Lemmy's users care about their community, and share that common bond.

Absolutely, I'd go to comment on a post, notice there's 5000 comments, and find someone else posted exactly what I was going to comment. I just gave up. I'll have to remind myself to actually participate here.

I really think you hit it on the head with the last paragraph. Lemmy users are basically self-selected for wanting to invest time and effort in replacing Reddit.

For me it's the freedom. No big corp is over my shoulder, No one person is in control. Even if the admin's for lemmy.world go crazy or something I can just make another account on another instance. I'm actually planning on running my own instance but I'm broke so it'll probably for just my friends and I, running on some office PC I find for cheap on Ebay

running on some office PC I find for cheap on Ebay

If you do this, highly suggest VMs so you can host more stuff. There's soooo many options and it's a lot of fun. Home Assistant (/c/homeassistant) in particular has been pretty life-changing for me, but that's a whole thing lol

I'ma either use proxmox or fedora coreos cause I wanna mess around with containers

Thank god I found Lemmy, because if I didn’t it probably would have only been a matter of hours before I caved and reinstalled Reddit on my phone at work.

I’m hoping it takes off. It’s a confusing start but seems alright once you have a grasp.

The grasp I’m trying to get ahold of is where to locate where everyone jumped ship to? Is there a master list or do you just gotta hunt and hope for the best?

It's good because it's lessening the "hardship" of leaving reddit. Imagine leaving reddit and there's literally no alternatives out there that match that format. Imagine if it was just Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok, Youtube, and whatever else, but nothing else that matched that sort of long stream of post headlines that Reddit has done so well. The others kind of do a similarish thing (post streams), BUT me personally I like this condensed headline format, I don't want to see a ginormous posts that takes up half the page and I have to waste valuable microseconds scrolling past it to get to the next giant post.

I'm an info addict and I want to see twenty posts on a page, briefly scan through them and keep scrolling down, just droves and droves of headlines that I can react to and completely skip past reading the article and go straight into commenting on it like I'm an expert on this thing I didn't even know about 5 minutes ago.

I tried to feed my info need without Reddit; rss feed readers, tech blogs with comments.

It felt empty as I realised the discourse was tipping the balance on what I was seeking out.

Multiple Lemmy instances with the iOS Memmy app feels like I’ve benefited from getting off Reddit.

I’m an info addict and I want to see twenty posts on a page, briefly scan through them and keep scrolling down, just droves and droves of headlines that I can react to and completely skip past reading the article and go straight into commenting on it like I’m an expert on this thing I didn’t even know about 5 minutes ago.

lol are you me?

It's new. It's exciting. It's like Reddit was ten years ago

I think a lot of us have been chasing the high of what Reddit was a decade ago

There were some really great years before the quality just took an absolute nose dive

Here is hoping Lemmy can catch the same magic in a bottle

I think it will. There is no reason it doesn't because there was nothing technological exceptionnal with Reddit.

I think so, too. The comment sections remind me a lot of Reddit's when I first joined in early 2013 — more thoughtful comments and less shitposting to get the most upvotes.

It seems like the biggest hurdle is going to be getting the more niche communities going on Lemmy.

I agree with both of those sentiments! And as for niche communities, the challenge I've seen has been that they need a kind of critical mass in one place to take off...but at least on Reddit, that has sometimes led to homogeneity of thought and shouting down of any opinion that doesn't 100% fall in line with the hivemind.

For example, I'm a big fan of the video game Life Is Strange, and there's a major decision in that game that completely recontextualizes the story depending on which choice you make. On Reddit, /r/lifeisstrange as a metaphorical single organism has made one specific choice its accepted orthodoxy - any speaking about the other choice is downvoted and seen as blasphemy.

It's especially frustrating to me since I have nuanced opinions about both sides, seeing various arguments for each. I don't come down firmly in favor of either. But the almost-religious polarization means that my viewpoint is seen as sacriligeous because it's nonconformist, but not bold enough against the orthodoxy to be supported by the blasphemers.

I wasn't even aware of chasing the high, but once i got on Lemmy, i got high

There were ups and downs along the way, once I'd figured out the subreddits I was actually interested in and filtering out the stuff I didn't want to see I have mostly had a decent time on Reddit. Spent one year on Apollo and bacon reader then purchased sync 9 years ago.... Most of the complaints of the official app flew right over my head and I was pretty happy about it. I'm still absolutely enjoying this new little bit of the Internet for sure.

I'm just happy I'm doing my part in giving the middle finger to Reddit. Fuck u/spez.

Yup. I've been telling my friends whose rif apps stopped working last night that lemmy is like how Reddit used to be. Friendlier smaller community but also feels like people trying to build up something new.

or more...

It helps that it's a fairly small community, which gives it an old school internet forum vibe. Hopefully it retains this vibe as the site continues to grow.

I've been on the internet long enough to say it won't. It will last a long time depending on the design of the system that creates the communities (mods, upvotes/downvotes, rules, algorithms, etc), but even that is limited because eventually every community reaches the size it needs to to encourage toxicity, echo chambers, circlejerks, and attracting even more toxic people from outside the communities.

It took reddit many years to start reaching that point though, I hope it takes these federated sites longer. And hopefully due to their design, they can keep most of the toxic people isolated.

I hope

sorry to spoil it for u but paradoxically growth could in fact ruin the peaceful vibe of lemmy, maybe to a certain user count.. and then it will start to get worse..user count should be capped at some point and with regular bad user swept, to leave place for contributive people. as much as the content here is cured, userbase need to be cured too..its like harmful weeds that grow in ur garden and that needs to be weeded out periodically

Especially the growth part would be nice at this point of time

I sort of had an intuition that the people I want to talk to, the people I enjoyed talking to over there, would also be the ones who made the choice to come here.

Newbie here after RIF went to Valhalla, I really hope this place grows and develops and people stay. I am enjoying it so far it reminds me of ol' forum days and Reddit of old, maybe I'm just being nostalgic but I just want this to work well and hope it's not just a short lived influx!

Haven't really seen nearly as much toxic content on Lemmy as of yet. Might actually start interacting instead of rolling my eyes at every other comment lmao

Oh, there's plenty of toxicity on Lemmy, but it's been fairly successfully isolated to the offending Instances due to active admins. Hopefully that keeps up.

The admins/mods/community have been pretty united in rejecting toxicity. Any maga/racist posters are usually downvoted to hell such that the only positively ranked posts in their communities are antithetical to maga/trump/racism.

Feels like there's less contrarianism, and people are less interested in being negative for no reason.

There's still some negativity, but it seems much chiller overall.

We can never escape this. It's human nature.

Lemmy kinda sucks for me right now. Laggy, buggy, awkward.... I love it. Looking forward to being part of its growth and development.

I tried a few apps and they didn't work for me at all (Jerboa and Thunder). Just downloaded connect for lemmy and that seems to be working. HAHAHAHA as I was typing this out I got an error lmao

Edit: after getting the error, I assumed it didn't go through and tried to re-send the comment. Connect gave me no confirmation that it had actually gone through and proceeded to give me another error. So now I'm seeing I put the comment twice on wefwef.app. It's wild trying out like 5 apps in one day. Can't wait for Sync to come!

Jerboa hasn't given me any issues, admittedly I only downloaded it this morning. I like wefwef, especially the gestures. I couldn't figure out how to change connect from all to local or subscribed, but that super simple in jerboa.

As I understand jerboa doesn't support the instance specific emotes though currently.

ABSOLUTELY looking forward to sync!!!!

Yes ! Cannot wait for sync!

Jerboa wasn't letting me sign in lol. I also found it to not be super smooth compared to wefwef and the clients I'm used to on Reddit. Sync could not get here fast enough.

Had a lot of issues trying to use the mobile webpage. Trying the Connect app now and pretty happy. People have mentioned Jerboa and I'll be trying that tomorrow to see which app I prefer. I can honestly say both work better than the official Reddit app. And I have actually given the reddit app a try before this whole mess and found it totally unusable. Honestly as far as app options Lemmy is already winning. Just needs the content and I'm happy.

You can also try https://wefwef.app

I think it might be broken right now.

Connect has been a great replacement for Boost

Boost has an app coming up for Lemmy

And you can register to download it right now in the play store.

Yup. It was my go-to for years. Can't wait untill I can use it for Lemmy.

Yup. It was my go-to for years. Can't wait untill I can use it for Lemmy.

Boost has an app coming up for Lemmy

Connect has been a great replacement for Boost

Still getting used to all the different servers/instances but it’s promising

Are you doing one account or many accounts

I have two accounts with the same user. One on lemm.ee and one on Lemmy.world. I was unsure how to work it/if I needed a second account

Try Liftoff app, it has multiple account feature. But as of me, I have multiple because of evolving nature of Lemmy, because some instances have some problems, in some time I hope I will be based on one account.

I’m just on lemmy world. Is there a big benefit to multiple accounts? Or is it just based on what lemmy.world has defederated I won’t be able to see.

I've found having multiple accounts helps with some of the fragility of instance going down or network unavailability.

Of you are having issues with one instance you can switch. I have 5 accounts plus kbin and lemm.ee and will switch depending on my needs.

It really is nice here. I love the break from the constant shitposting that is on reddit.

Agreed, the memes are good and the conversations are civil. I love it here

The content is nice. The performance, not so much.

Yeah it’s got some growing pains. Anything worth it’s salt will have growing pains.

Even Reddit did back in the day. Ya know back when Aaron Schwartz was running the show.

I had a reddit account from early on and lemmy feels similar. Its gonna be great watching it evolve

Oh, yeah. It's inconvenient, but hopefully it will get better.

It will. The only way to fix problems is to release your application so you can see the problems. That’s how software works.

I get better performance from the colorful pills at the gas station

Yeah, I'm hoping the overall speed of the site improves rapidly. I can't seem to upvote comments and my first comment appeared to get stuck posting until I refreshed the page and it did in fact post.

Try lemm.ee instance and Liftoff (wefwef.app) apps. Awesome speed.

Can we say we "made it" when megacorps start making their own instances and communities?

I think we'll have "made it" when You Tubers devote videos to reading Lemmy posts.

I don't think they'll use the actual Lemmy software. They'll probably make their own thing using the ActivityPub protocol.

And we'll start seeing "to view the whole post, register at Jojo Corp and get 25% of your first purchase!"

Based 😁❤️

Oh, crap. I just thought of something. What if they try bribing instance owners to stay federated with them?

mostly a lurker here so far but it seems the comunity is developing well.

It feels fresh.. idk how to describe it

Lemmy is janky, but that's probably a good thing. Keeps the entitled asses away. I've only seen one asshole on this entire site in the last month.

Lemmy.world is a bit slow for me RN but given the immense growth on Lemmy, it's to be expected. I'm still on Reddit but hopefully I get to see more niche content here! I read /r/CredibleDefense and /r/CombatFootage, would be great if they were on Lemmy too.

Yeah, votes are slow for me now (5 seconds until a vote "registers" in the UI), but somehow loading entire posts with their comment chains is fast.

Maybe is because there are like servers for some actions but I am not sure of how that works

Same earlier. It’s smooth for me now though. Very responsive. Seems like the server upgrade paid off.

Edit: Posting replies is still buggy and slow but that’s to be expect so early on.

I am really enjoying my time here

You guys are awesome everybody good out there?

Le kiddos are still over at Reddit

Is that how we're gonna do this? Roll back all our jokes to 2015 reddit memes? Are we gonna start posting rage comics and complain about 9gag again? I'm not complaining, just trying to understand what's coming up.

I am so ready for the return of rage comics, it was a glorious era

Gotta roll it with it ma dude. The internet is constantly changing

I suspect (/hope lol) a lot of them will just use the reddit official app.

Definitely a better vibe than reddit, and I really hope it stays this way! The community seems to be a lot more willing to have discussions, and comments don't just devolve into the same lame jokes that get repeated over and over.

I think it’s early tech adopters are just excited about something nice and will play nice to try to hero it grow. I remember the early internet being a really nice place.

It’ll get ruined soon enough.

Instances can get ruined, sure, but the decentralized nature means ruination has to focus on the Fediverse. It remains to be seen how it will get ruined. Like the Reddit honeymoon after Digg's collapse, we get to watch this be the hero until it becomes the villain.

Federation is the best thing i have ever seen.

Give it time... Once something gets enough attention people will look to make money off it. Enjoy it now

It's that new colony optimism

Amen! It's a little slow but I'm perfectly fine with that! Everyone here is vibing for sure!

Yeah, nice vibes

That virtual smell of unfamiliar server exhaust air. Wonderful.

I think it's because these are actual communities. The admins are just regular people you can talk to like normally. You choose your community. They're not faceless corporations and I think when a network is a corporation the platform gets less respectful conversation for understandable reasons.

Reminds me just a little bit of USENET before Eternal September and all the spam that essentially ruined it. Same for the days of BBSes.

I love it. All I want is an app

Android: Liftoff, Connect, Summit, Jerboa. (In this order for me.

PWA: wefwef.app

Edit: the android ones are all on Play Store.

i’ve been using memmy on ios

you have to use it through testflight and it’s still a bit buggy but otherwise feels like a slightly less polished and less customisable version of Apollo, which is already high praise.

Same! Hopefully it won't be much longer.

i’ve been using memmy on ios

you have to use it through testflight and it’s still a bit buggy but otherwise feels like a slightly less polished and less customisable version of Apollo, which is already high praise.

Someone told me about wefwef for iOS and its awesome so far!

Someone told me about wefwef for iOS and its awesome so far!

Why do all good things come to a NAND?

My guess is that people realize that you won’t be persecuted for being civil, and we want to maintain a positive vibe. Lots of us reddit refugees didn’t realize just how toxic reddit had gotten, and Lemmy is a breath of fresh air.

I've only been on the fediverse just under a year, but generally speaking that's the vibe here in general. Twitter migrants said the same thing after they showed up to Mastodon/Calckey.

I remember when people made the effort to be nice on Reddit as well. Opinions were valued and courtesy was extended with a benefit of the doubt, before it turned into a "not up for discussion" shithole. It was like watching someone get wealthy with their fuck you money, and then the community went to shit as mods got tired of trolls, opinions were no longer valued, and the echo chamber effect became amplified.

And to build off lemons post, all activity is transparent. If curious you can see who down voted you/your post/comment. Makes trolls easier to block.

And the nice thing is if you do see trolls, don't feed them, just block them and move on. This place is so much less stressful when you remove the bad actors.

I've had people mass downvote all my comments. IDGAF about that though

Let me guess - you commented on something posted on lemmygrad? :P

Let's pray it stays that way

Ya got some good discussions, ya got some pictures of naked ladies... What else do you need?

Promotion so more people join

I understand where you are coming from! Plus it is interesting to be here a bit early before the whole platform gets really popular.

Try promoting the place, I promoted and I think some people joined because of that

reminds me of reddit from 10 years ago

Wassup lemmy gang

Group hug?

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..WHY IS THERE NO EMOJI FOR HUGS!?

🫂

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I think this is the closest one!

wait till the bots show around... lol

Beep boop, we are all bots.

Really hoping this will take off!

Been trying to convince family and friends to switch; it isn't necessarily the easiest switch, especially for non-technical people, but I hope it's worth it for them.

Being nice is contagious.

Good vibes here indeed!

I'm on kbin, but such is the beauty of federation

fediverse connecting two types of apps like this is awesome, I'm posting from lemmy

Two for now. With a bit of luck, many more to come

Let the journey begins.

Word. This is fun. Tons of jank but it doesn’t detract from the experience, but merely an interesting part of it (least right now).

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It feels nice and warm, that's for sure :) I hope it stays this way but the content grows to where I can use this as my new source of information

Semi-related... You guys have any tips for seeing new popular posts? I have checked subscribed top week, subscribed top day, even month, and then even all for those 3. I feel like I only see new content every 3-5 days. Or is that just because we're still growing and I'm just used to the overflow of content on reddit? lol

Amen! It's a little slow but I'm perfectly fine with that! Everyone here is vibing for sure!

I, for one, will not be missing the Reddit ads.

I would agree, however I'm on KBin not Lemmy! XD but I agree

🤘

Happy to be here

Me too

Let's be nice too :)

That's just the Fediverse. It's magical mostly because everyone in it is just committed to being so awesome. <3

I’m all for it!

METAposting I see

I agree, it feels like something good is starting to rev up.

This has such a nice community message board feel to it.

It’s good because too many people hasn’t ruined it

I'm curious if the decentralized nature of Lemmy will mean it never gets to be "too big" since users will be more spread out. I know we can all see each other's posts... but still

Absolutely.

Just don't criticize Joe Biden or the knives come out. 😳

haha, politics in general are just annoying to talk about cause neither side wants to listen to what the other has to say. But I'm pretty sure there's a politics community you can criticize the president in.

Lemmy has historically been pretty far left so I'm not sure where you're getting that from. People have been criticizing Biden here forever, but maybe just not from the perspective that you're used to.

@FlashMobOfOne I skimmed your comment history and my god you're obnoxious

I appreciate that.

It's not like reddit you say? Time to be an asshole to everyone for no good reason /s