Also if you've ever met a social monarchist, they're truly the most confounding people

it shouldn't be hard to figure this out. the problem isn't who runs the prisons, it's that the prisons exist. anywhere you have people held against their will, you have risk for abuse because freedom of movement is a human trait. imprisonment is one of several steps on the road of dehumanization.

there's also the issue that China's current government conducts itself in a manner that is Han-supremacist. minority groups in china are not treated with equal dignity. my deeper critique of all this spirals out into a discussion about how capitalist and imperial structures have to be orthogonally opposed rather than strictly directly opposed because when you always say the opposite of something else you become predictable and easy to manipulate, but just what i've said is fine for now

yeah the labor movement fell into a pattern of black and white thinking that made them easy to shatter after the Harlan Couty War. it all culminated in union workers needing to organize, and ultimately unionize, against their old unions. in large part that movement was why the political establishment reacted with Thatcher and Reagan

dehumanization

we are not savage brutes who shoot at anything that moves. we are survivalists who shoot what we must to eat in lean times. an armadillo is a terrible animal to shoot because their meat when cooked is not edible except for for the truly desperate.

what this changes is the nature of the roadkill in our mountains and valleys, and this also is a symptom of our entire bioregion dying to mistreatment and mismanagement by a society who sees the trees and rivers we depend on for life itself and see only timber and fossil fuels

i got lost in this thread and thought you were saying anarchists were liberals. nevermind

liberal from an economic sense or a philosophical sense? there's a difference

the prolific OP posters in this community mostly only comment on theis own posts

I am making no critiques of the USSR in this statement. I am critiquing an approach I see leftists take with modern colonial-imperialist regimes that aren't the United States today. If I want to overthrow the imperial powers of today, I have to do so by helping the people resisting their oppressors where ever they are, even if their oppressors oppose my oppressors. The people can only ever free themselves, they can never be freed by an external force. If I am going to call myself anti-imperial, I am going to act and speak in support of people resisting oppression be that a genocide in Latin America, Sudan, the Congo, or Palestine.

say what you will about Leon Trotsky, but the man knew what he was about when it came to the approach of the third camp rebellion. none of us can be free of our imperial overlords if all we do is switch from one capitalist structure to another with a different coat of paint. socialism without international solidarity for the working class isn't socialism at all. it's just politics as sports with a new coat of paint